[MPWG] Fwd: White List
Conrad Richter
conrad at richters.com
Wed Oct 27 10:42:32 CDT 2010
On 10-10-25 03:36 PM, Patricia_DeAngelis at fws.gov wrote:
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> Thanks for providing more information.
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> I still would like to see the actual proposed language in its entirety
> that provides the specific details that they are inviting comment on.
> Maybe I didn't look closely enough at the links in your original
> message, but I felt like it was just a collection of disjointed
> information without any real explanatory info - ? I can't comprehend
> how the public could be asked for comments without being provided the
> complete and actual proposed language. Maybe I'm just used to the U.S.
> federal requirement to publish in the Federal Register?
As far as I know those documents are it. There may be a Federal Register
publication; but I haven't heard that there is.
The consultation was, I thought originally, confined to the growers who
are participating in either the Canadian or U.S. version of the program.
So I suppose that those growers already understand the context in which
the proposal was made. But then two CFIA officials suggested that the
discussion on this policy ought to be broadened to interested persons
and organizations outside the immediate grower participant circle.
Conrad Richter
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> Thanks,
> -Patricia
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> Patricia S. De Angelis, Ph.D.
> Botanist - Division of Scientific Authority
> Chair - Plant Conservation Alliance - Medicinal Plant Working Group
> US Fish & Wildlife Service
> 4401 N. Fairfax Dr., Suite 110
> Arlington, VA 22203
> 703-358-1708 x1753
> FAX: 703-358-2276
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> Promoting sustainable use and conservation of our native medicinal plants.
> <www.nps.gov/plants/medicinal>
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> *Conrad Richter <conrad at richters.com>*
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> On 10-10-25 08:33 AM, _Patricia_DeAngelis at fws.gov_
> <mailto:Patricia_DeAngelis at fws.gov> wrote:
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> CFIA is the Canadian Food Inspection Agency , according to Google.
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> This is an interesting topic and worth taking an impartial look.
> However, I can't seem to find the actual documents published by the
> Canadian government. I'm hoping the actual documents will provide
> details such as,
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> * What criteria are used to decide if a species is invasive?
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> I have asked CFIA for information about that. I do know there is a
> binational committee of experts that has been for the past three years
> reviewing plants for this list. One of the things I asked for is a
> list of species that were considered and rejected; but I have no word
> yet if such a thing exists.
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> * Is this retroactive or does it commence with imports after a
> certain date?
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> Not retroactive. The expectation is that this policy will be
> implemented next year with an as yet undefined transition period.
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> * I'm really surprised to see in the Proposed Authorized Plant
> List by Genus, that they have columns for how the plants must be
> sourced (i.e., greenhouse grown and propagated from seed or
> tissue culture), apparently in order to be acceptable. I don't
> get that at all. Is this about regulating invasive plants or is
> this an implication that there is some sort of pathogen on the
> material if not cultivated?
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> This is not just about invasive plants, though invasives are a big
> part of it. It is also -- perhaps more so -- about pests and diseases
> that might be on plants.
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> * How will they rectify non-native vs. native species?
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> Ethnicity is immaterial.
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> Definitely worth taking a closer look. If anyone comes across any
> offical links from the Canadian government's website, please forward
> to the list.
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> I know the USDA was working on similar legislation for nursery stock.
> Not really sure what's going on with that endeavor. Does anyone on the
> list know?
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> This is not just Canadian! This is joint U.S. and Canadian policy.
> There is a parallel consultation underway on the U.S. side.
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> I'm cc'g to the Alien Plant Working Group listserve as well.
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> Thank you,
> Patricia
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> Patricia S. De Angelis, Ph.D.
> Botanist - Division of Scientific Authority
> Chair - Plant Conservation Alliance - Medicinal Plant Working Group
> US Fish & Wildlife Service
> 4401 N. Fairfax Dr., Suite 110
> Arlington, VA 22203
> 703-358-1708 x1753
> FAX: 703-358-2276
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> Promoting sustainable use and conservation of our native medicinal plants.
> <_www.nps.gov/plants/medicinal_ <http://www.nps.gov/plants/medicinal>>
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> *Shsa01 **_<shsa at sasktel.net>_* <mailto:shsa at sasktel.net>
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> Does anyone know what dept of CFIA this is?
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> C. Kehler
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> On 2010-10-24, at 7:08 PM, Robert Layton Beyfuss <_rlb14 at cornell.edu_
> <mailto:rlb14 at cornell.edu>> wrote:
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> Hi All
> According to _http://www.physorg.com/news204438872.html_ there are
> over 400,000 named flowering plant species worldwide, according to
> _http://www.invasive.org/_ there are 218 invasive plant species in the
> US. So, the roughly 399,800 non invasive plants should be listed and
> must be checked before someone can bring it one in or out? A wonderful
> and efficient use of our resources. The customs and border patrols
> must be thrilled by this.
> This is insane.
> Bob
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> To:* Conrad Richter; _mpwg at lists.plantconservation.org_
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> While I understand the concern regarding the introduction of new
> problem plants, this approach seems a bit bizarre. More puzzling is
> the attention paid to this issue regarding the movement of living
> things across geopolitical (meaningless from the standpoint of the
> natural world) boundaries, while these same governments pay little
> attention to the equivalent biological "weapons of mass destruction"
> like the introduction of GE salmon and other genetically modified
> organisms into our biosphere.
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> These governments seem far more interested in the bottom line of
> multinational corporations than the common good. We see this agenda
> played out daily in policies that are enacted and that while sounding
> beneficial, often upon deeper investigation we see that they play into
> the financial goals and bottom line of these same corporations.
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> It is not my intent here to place blame or to paint all of those
> vested with the authority of overseeing our interests with the same
> broad brush. However we must remember that these same entities were
> often the very ones responsible for the introduction of many of our
> greatest plant pests today such as kudzu and multiflora rose. The
> bottom line here is that agencies are staffed by people and people
> make mistakes.
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> Once again, I believe the focus of those charged with protecting our
> interests should go after real and imminent threats instead of
> potential or even imaginary ones. USDA, FDA, and the EPA should be
> looking at those organisms that have no track record outside the
> laboratory and as such have to potential to unleash unimaginable
> consequences.
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> Regards,
> Robin A. Suggs
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Conrad Richter
> Sent: Oct 24, 2010 3:53 AM
> To: _mpwg at lists.plantconservation.org_
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> Subject: [MPWG] Fwd:
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> "WHITE LIST" OF AUTHORIZED PLANTS (Canada and U.S.)*
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> The U.S. and Canadian governments are planning to introduce a "white
> list" of plants that are allowed entry into each country under a joint
> Canada-USA greenhouse certification program. The United States
> Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Canadian Food Inspection
> Agency (CFIA) are requesting comments from stakeholders on a proposal
> to replace the current list of prohibited plants with this new list of
> allowed plants. What this means is that if a plant is not on the
> allowed list it cannot enter the U.S. from Canada or vice versa. Many
> thousands of plants including many herbs will be barred entry under
> the proposal.
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> This change is highly significant for both countries because it
> appears to be a first attempt to implement a controversal "white list"
> approach to the control of cross-border plant movement. The proposed
> "white list" is far more restrictive than the current "black list" of
> prohibited plants that has been in place since the inception of the
> binational Greenhouse Certification Program in 1996. The proposed
> "white list" of allowed plants includes less than 1000 plant genera,
> out of over 12,600 genera of flowering plants known to man. The
> current "black list" of prohibited plants has fewer than 100 genera.
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> Some suggest that the powerful anti-invasives movement in the U.S. is
> behind the push to introduce "white lists" of plants that are allowed
> into the country. While invasives are a problem for both countries,
> the new list will affect thousands of plants already in the
> horticultural trade, and will limit the introduction of new plants to
> gardeners.
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> For gardeners, it is worth reflecting a moment on how many new plants
> that you have enjoyed growing over the past 10-20 years, and how many
> of them might not have been available to you had this "white list"
> been in place.
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> Gardeners, herbalists, commercial growers, and the gardening and
> herbal media are encouraged to submit comments.
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> *The deadline for comments is October 31, 2010.*
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> *United States*: Email your comments to Michael D. Ward, Senior
> Accreditation Projects Manager, USDA-APHIS-PPQ
> (_michael.d.ward at aphis.usda.gov_ <mailto:michael.d.ward at aphis.usda.gov>)
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> *Canada*: Email your comments to the CFIA
> (_horticulture at inspection.gc.ca_ <mailto:horticulture at inspection.gc.ca>)
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> The relevant documents, including the proposed lists of authorized
> genera and families, are available _here_
> <http://www.richters.com/newdisplay.cgi?page=Issues/documents.html>.
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