[MPWG] Fwd: White List
Patricia_DeAngelis at fws.gov
Patricia_DeAngelis at fws.gov
Mon Oct 25 14:36:37 CDT 2010
Thanks for providing more information.
I still would like to see the actual proposed language in its entirety
that provides the specific details that they are inviting comment on.
Maybe I didn't look closely enough at the links in your original message,
but I felt like it was just a collection of disjointed information without
any real explanatory info - ? I can't comprehend how the public could be
asked for comments without being provided the complete and actual proposed
language. Maybe I'm just used to the U.S. federal requirement to publish
in the Federal Register?
Thanks,
-Patricia
Patricia S. De Angelis, Ph.D.
Botanist - Division of Scientific Authority
Chair - Plant Conservation Alliance - Medicinal Plant Working Group
US Fish & Wildlife Service
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Arlington, VA 22203
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Conrad Richter <conrad at richters.com>
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On 10-10-25 08:33 AM, Patricia_DeAngelis at fws.gov wrote:
CFIA is the Canadian Food Inspection Agency , according to Google.
This is an interesting topic and worth taking an impartial look. However,
I can't seem to find the actual documents published by the Canadian
government. I'm hoping the actual documents will provide details such as,
What criteria are used to decide if a species is invasive?
I have asked CFIA for information about that. I do know there is a
binational committee of experts that has been for the past three years
reviewing plants for this list. One of the things I asked for is a list of
species that were considered and rejected; but I have no word yet if such
a thing exists.
Is this retroactive or does it commence with imports after a certain date?
Not retroactive. The expectation is that this policy will be implemented
next year with an as yet undefined transition period.
I'm really surprised to see in the Proposed Authorized Plant List by
Genus, that they have columns for how the plants must be sourced (i.e.,
greenhouse grown and propagated from seed or tissue culture), apparently
in order to be acceptable. I don't get that at all. Is this about
regulating invasive plants or is this an implication that there is some
sort of pathogen on the material if not cultivated?
This is not just about invasive plants, though invasives are a big part of
it. It is also -- perhaps more so -- about pests and diseases that might
be on plants.
How will they rectify non-native vs. native species?
Ethnicity is immaterial.
Definitely worth taking a closer look. If anyone comes across any offical
links from the Canadian government's website, please forward to the list.
I know the USDA was working on similar legislation for nursery stock. Not
really sure what's going on with that endeavor. Does anyone on the list
know?
This is not just Canadian! This is joint U.S. and Canadian policy. There
is a parallel consultation underway on the U.S. side.
I'm cc'g to the Alien Plant Working Group listserve as well.
Thank you,
Patricia
Patricia S. De Angelis, Ph.D.
Botanist - Division of Scientific Authority
Chair - Plant Conservation Alliance - Medicinal Plant Working Group
US Fish & Wildlife Service
4401 N. Fairfax Dr., Suite 110
Arlington, VA 22203
703-358-1708 x1753
FAX: 703-358-2276
Promoting sustainable use and conservation of our native medicinal plants.
<www.nps.gov/plants/medicinal>
Shsa01 <shsa at sasktel.net>
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10/25/2010 04:56 AM
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Robert Layton Beyfuss <rlb14 at cornell.edu>
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Does anyone know what dept of CFIA this is?
C. Kehler
On 2010-10-24, at 7:08 PM, Robert Layton Beyfuss <rlb14 at cornell.edu>
wrote:
Hi All
According to http://www.physorg.com/news204438872.html there are over
400,000 named flowering plant species worldwide, according to
http://www.invasive.org/ there are 218 invasive plant species in the US.
So, the roughly 399,800 non invasive plants should be listed and must be
checked before someone can bring it one in or out? A wonderful and
efficient use of our resources. The customs and border patrols must be
thrilled by this.
This is insane.
Bob
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While I understand the concern regarding the introduction of new problem
plants, this approach seems a bit bizarre. More puzzling is the attention
paid to this issue regarding the movement of living things across
geopolitical (meaningless from the standpoint of the natural world)
boundaries, while these same governments pay little attention to the
equivalent biological "weapons of mass destruction" like the introduction
of GE salmon and other genetically modified organisms into our biosphere.
These governments seem far more interested in the bottom line of
multinational corporations than the common good. We see this agenda played
out daily in policies that are enacted and that while sounding beneficial,
often upon deeper investigation we see that they play into the financial
goals and bottom line of these same corporations.
It is not my intent here to place blame or to paint all of those vested
with the authority of overseeing our interests with the same broad brush.
However we must remember that these same entities were often the very ones
responsible for the introduction of many of our greatest plant pests today
such as kudzu and multiflora rose. The bottom line here is that agencies
are staffed by people and people make mistakes.
Once again, I believe the focus of those charged with protecting our
interests should go after real and imminent threats instead of potential
or even imaginary ones. USDA, FDA, and the EPA should be looking at those
organisms that have no track record outside the laboratory and as such
have to potential to unleash unimaginable consequences.
Regards,
Robin A. Suggs
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From: Conrad Richter
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"WHITE LIST" OF AUTHORIZED PLANTS (Canada and U.S.)
The U.S. and Canadian governments are planning to introduce a "white list"
of plants that are allowed entry into each country under a joint
Canada-USA greenhouse certification program. The United States Department
of Agriculture (USDA) and the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) are
requesting comments from stakeholders on a proposal to replace the current
list of prohibited plants with this new list of allowed plants. What this
means is that if a plant is not on the allowed list it cannot enter the
U.S. from Canada or vice versa. Many thousands of plants including many
herbs will be barred entry under the proposal.
This change is highly significant for both countries because it appears to
be a first attempt to implement a controversal "white list" approach to
the control of cross-border plant movement. The proposed "white list" is
far more restrictive than the current "black list" of prohibited plants
that has been in place since the inception of the binational Greenhouse
Certification Program in 1996. The proposed "white list" of allowed plants
includes less than 1000 plant genera, out of over 12,600 genera of
flowering plants known to man. The current "black list" of prohibited
plants has fewer than 100 genera.
Some suggest that the powerful anti-invasives movement in the U.S. is
behind the push to introduce "white lists" of plants that are allowed into
the country. While invasives are a problem for both countries, the new
list will affect thousands of plants already in the horticultural trade,
and will limit the introduction of new plants to gardeners.
For gardeners, it is worth reflecting a moment on how many new plants that
you have enjoyed growing over the past 10-20 years, and how many of them
might not have been available to you had this "white list" been in place.
Gardeners, herbalists, commercial growers, and the gardening and herbal
media are encouraged to submit comments.
The deadline for comments is October 31, 2010.
United States: Email your comments to Michael D. Ward, Senior
Accreditation Projects Manager, USDA-APHIS-PPQ (
michael.d.ward at aphis.usda.gov)
Canada: Email your comments to the CFIA (horticulture at inspection.gc.ca)
The relevant documents, including the proposed lists of authorized genera
and families, are available here.
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