[SOS-PCA] [EXTERNAL] Vacuum recommendation?

Wed Nov 13 11:52:56 CST 2024

Exactly the direction I was thinking, but it should be easy to make it a 
lot lighter depending on the seeds collected. As a note, when I 
interjected those comments into the discussion I was thinking of my Joe 
Pye Weed, and other native seeds, so a blueberry rake type head would be 
overkill, but there might bee seeds that might require something more 
substantial (Magnolia virginiana maybe).

On Nov 13 2024 12:40 PM, Steinlage, Todd A (DNR) wrote:
> Maybe something like a modified blueberry rake?  That might be a little 
> bulky, but maybe worth a look.
> 
> Todd
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> Interesting.  Never thought of using this for collecting seeds, etc., 
> that we want to throw away...
> 
> I can als see making a comb attachment to add to the business end of a 
> vacuum to collect seeds that I care about - the comb brushes the plants 
> to knock the seeds off, and the vacuum suck them up into the bag.  You 
> can then empty out the bag, or just seal it and use the bag as your 
> collection bag. BTW, in a previous job I was an instrumentation 
> engineer for an Ag College. I see how we could set up a series of 
> experiments to test out this as a collection method in the field. Let 
> me know if people are interested...
> 
> BTW, my wife also uses a vacuum to pull off leaf-footed bugs from the 
> tomatoes in our organic home garden.  This is a reasonably known 
> organic way of removing pests from plants, but my wife independently 
> came up with it in a fit of frustration with dealing with a particular 
> obnoxious invasion...
> 
>    EBo --
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> On Nov 13 2024 8:27 AM, Chase, Jonathan B wrote:
>> Hello Team,
>> I recently wanted to remove seeds from a patch of invasive thistle
>> (Cirsium arvense) and bought a portable and rechargeable handheld
>> vacuum that did a great job of removing these seeds from the ground
>> without sucking up everything else around it and I wonder if this
>> might have some application for you, albeit above the ground, but
>> perhaps not depending on the situation. Here is the model I used (and
>> of course we are not allowed to expressly endorse any brand but this
>> one did do the job for which it was intended).
>> [cid:0243b408-2b23-4ee4-8d7d-1eda76787473]
>> Thanks
>> Jonathan
>> Jonathan B. Chase
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>> Subject: Re: [SOS-PCA] [EXTERNAL] Vacuum recommendation?
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>> You got me to thinking... I wonder if a portable battery powered
>> vacuum (with appropriate screen in the intake) would work.  If anyone
>> in the DC area wants to play with this as a DIY type engineering
>> project, let me know.  Maybe we can compare it to a few other methods.
>> 
>>    EBo --
>> 
>> On Nov 12 2024 5:59 PM, Velman, Wendy M wrote:
>>> Hi Molly,
>>> 
>>> Here in MT we purchased leaf blowers that can reverse the motors and
>>> take out the chopper blades. Works amazing for sagebrush collection.
>>> Not soliciting for them but we bought Stihl leaf blowers about 5+
>>> years ago and still using them. We have not collected any other
>>> species except WY and Black sagebrush.
>>> 
>>> If you do use a vacuum, make sure to put something like nylon
>>> stocking over the intake filter, otherwise you might suck things into
>>> the motor and burn it up...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Wendy Velman
>>> Botany Program Lead
>>> Plant Conservation & Restoration Program
>>> (PCRP) and Pollinators
>>> Montana/Dakotas State Office
>>> 5001 Southgate Drive
>>> Billings, MT 59101
>>> Office: 406-896-5032
>>> Fax: 406-896-5293
>>> e-mail: wvelman at blm.gov<mailto:wvelman at blm.gov>
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>>> We're losing biodiversity globally at an alarming rate, and we need a
>>> cornucopia of different plants and animals, for the planet's health
>>> and our own. Diane Ackerman
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>>> Hello collectors,
>>> 
>>> I am looking for recommendations for a small portable vacuum that
>>> could be used to collect small aster seeds. This season we
>>> encountered a few plants such as Stephanomeria that vacuuming might
>>> work well for.
>>> Please
>>> share your pros and cons of any vacuum models if you can!
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Molly Boyter
>>> Botanist
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