[PCA] NEWS: NatiVeg Plant Selection Tool

Wed Nov 30 10:44:10 CST 2016

I'd also be careful using acronyms with these databases ..... most of the
invasive world thinks of the "NAS Database" as the USGS Nonindigenous
Aquatic Species database that's been around for 20+ years .....

https://nas.er.usgs.gov/

Thanks

Don Mac

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Saffier, Steven <ssaffier at audubon.org>
wrote:

> I appreciate all the comments on the NAS database.  Your correct in that
> it is intended for a “new” audience, mostly lay, who might be hearing the
> term “native plant” for the first time.  So our intent is to ease them into
> a conservation continuum where eventually they learn more about local
> (genotype, selection, etc._, and may even begin propagating plants from
> local sources on their own.
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> Introducing them to the value of eco-regional plants and what they provide
> for birds is step one.  We’re casting a wide net here.  That said, local
> resources (growers) are given to browsers based on zip code and at least
> here in PA, many of the vendors are primarily dealing with “local” (as
> defined below by CNPS) seed source.
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> Feel free to forward any other comments, corrections, or other notes to me
> and I will get those to the database team at HQ.
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> Steve
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> Steven Saffier
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> *From:* native-plants [mailto:native-plants-bounces@
> lists.plantconservation.org] *On Behalf Of *Peter Rauch
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 29, 2016 1:43 PM
> *To:* native-plants at lists.plantconservation.org
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> *Subject:* Re: [PCA] NEWS: NatiVeg Plant Selection Tool
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> It depends on what one's definition of "native plant" is, as to whether
> the NAS Native Plants Database is accurate, useful, appropriate to use for
> one's purposes.
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> Organizations like the California Native Plant Society tend to limit the
> notion of "native plant" to mean "locally native" when discussing
> restorations, servicing (local) native animal species, etc. --"local"*
> meaning generally in the area where that particular species* of plant has
> evolved, adapted to the immediate surrounding conditions* and co-inhabiting
> organisms.
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> In that sense of "local", the NAS database does not serve one's ZIP Code
> very well at all.
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> *  Yeah, "local", "species", "immediate surrounding conditions", are all
> soft, hardly objective terms. But, the general idea is that the sense of
> distance (remoteness, proximity), isolation, evolutionary selection in
> context, etc. enter into the equation of what makes a species "native".
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> Peter
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> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Russ Cohen <eatwild at rcn.com> wrote:
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> I just found out about a new resource, set up and maintained by the
> National Audubon Society.  It’s a *Native Plants Database* at
> http://www.audubon.org/native-plants, and anyone can just type in a zip
> code to get an illustrated list of bird-friendly plants that are native to
> that zip code.  Ostensibly, many of the plants that pop up on the list
> (i.e., the flowering plants) would have value for pollinators too.
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> When I did this for my zip code (02476), I got a list of 93 species.  I
> was happy to see many of my favorite edible native species on that list.
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> Anyone familiar with this tool, and, if so, what do you think of it?
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> -- Russ Cohen <http://users.rcn.com/eatwild/bio.htm>
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> *From:* native-plants [mailto:native-plants-bounces@
> lists.plantconservation.org] *On Behalf Of *Marcum, Paul Brent
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 29, 2016 11:38 AM
> *To:* native-plants at lists.plantconservation.org
> *Subject:* [PCA] FW: NEWS: NatiVeg Plant Selection Tool
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> I agree, Johnny.  This could be such a great resource but they just do not
> get it.
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> I tested NatiVeg on an area in east-central Illinois.  All cultivars, many
> from well outside of our area.  Sure these nativars are interesting because
> they have atypical colors or flower forms but they do not belong in our
> restorations.
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> Paul Marcum
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> *From:* native-plants [mailto:native-plants-bounces@
> lists.plantconservation.org
> <native-plants-bounces at lists.plantconservation.org>] *On Behalf Of *Randall,
> John L
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 29, 2016 10:05 AM
> *To:* Haidet, Margaret (Megan) <mahaidet at blm.gov>; native-plants at lists.
> plantconservation.org
> *Subject:* Re: [PCA] NEWS: NatiVeg Plant Selection Tool
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> Interesting – I tested the NatiVeg link for a forb in my Piedmont NC area
> and it gave me a Helianthus species CULTIVAR introduced from the Western
> US. I am not impressed.
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> Johnny Randall
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> Johnny Randall, Ph.D.
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> Director of Conservation Programs
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> *From:* native-plants [mailto:native-plants-bounces@
> lists.plantconservation.org
> <native-plants-bounces at lists.plantconservation.org>] *On Behalf Of *Haidet,
> Margaret (Megan)
> *Sent:* Monday, November 28, 2016 4:17 PM
> *To:* native-plants at lists.plantconservation.org
> *Subject:* [PCA] NEWS: NatiVeg Plant Selection Tool
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> National Bobwhite Conservation Initiative Releases Online Tool to Aid
> Native Plant Selection
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> NatiVeg (www.quailcount.org/NatiVeg
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.quailcount.org_NatiVeg&d=DQMGaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=3tLWYezw2zDniF8rKNlm-9lMokj5SDP4jXYqzekV924&m=Vvh8NrIx3knlX-NhvzZ39bUvYjZOStjFoJtjYXvY6BA&s=3DfkSS_8SKaMWFhEOEd6F1SeNZiZ1KDunib0aPzV12U&e=>)
> is a remote, Internet-based tool that works on desktops, laptops, tablets
> and mobile phones. Developed by NBCI and University of Tennessee Institute
> of Agriculture Information Technology Service and beta-tested by a variety
> of outside reviewers, NatiVeg is a database that, within the 25-state
>  initiative’s range (mid-west and southeast), delivers the proper native
> plant choices for a specific location and the user’s specific purposes,
> whether wildlife, forage, biomass, pollinators, critical area planting,
> restoration or soil conservation.
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> Megan Haidet
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> Seeds of Success
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> National Collection Curator
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> 202-912-7233
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> *PLANTS ARE NATURE*
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> https://www.blm.gov/programs/natural-resources/native-
> plant-communities/native-plant-and-seed-material-development/collection
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.blm.gov_programs_natural-2Dresources_native-2Dplant-2Dcommunities_native-2Dplant-2Dand-2Dseed-2Dmaterial-2Ddevelopment_collection&d=DQMGaQ&c=8hUWFZcy2Z-Za5rBPlktOQ&r=3tLWYezw2zDniF8rKNlm-9lMokj5SDP4jXYqzekV924&m=Vvh8NrIx3knlX-NhvzZ39bUvYjZOStjFoJtjYXvY6BA&s=1SSWz7prPocIc_j4zz69ogtaGtZ9zcFhk3ZVMTErvwU&e=>
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