[MPWG] ginseng in the news

Susan susan at unitedplantsavers.org
Sun Sep 8 16:11:14 CDT 2013


Yes the time is now to speak up. 

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On Sep 8, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Jeanine Davis <Jeanine_Davis at ncsu.edu> wrote:

> Oh Randi, how dreadful...and now they want to frack in NC, too. This all makes me so angry. I do think it is time for more of us scientists to speak up.
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> Jeanine
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> Jeanine Davis, Associate Professor & Extension Specialist
> Dept. of Horticultural Science, NC State University
> website: ncherb.org
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> On Sep 8, 2013 3:19 PM, "Randi Pokladnik" <randi at clover.net> wrote:
>> Hi folks!
>>  
>> I did my dissertation on poaching in 2008 and it is an issue in Ohio. I am worried now because we have out of state people swarming the area fracking! If the frack pads themselves and out of state vehicles (carrying invasives back and forth) are not bad enough, we have invasive people so to speak, crossing properties without any thought to privacy issues. We had one lady find dynamite charges set up on her land in Belmont county Ohio... she was going to build a house and took a walk around, the company claims it was all a big mistake but beware, I see fracking trucks withdrawing water illegally from hidden areas as well as the local MWCD lakes. This is so ridiculous! And then the earth quakes as well as spent frack fluid being poured out in wooded regions.
>> The medicinals seem to be off the radar as far as ODNR is concerned when it comes to getting out that natural gas.
>> Randi Pokladnik
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: MPWG [mailto:mpwg-bounces at lists.plantconservation.org] On Behalf Of Jeannie Dunn
>> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 9:05 AM
>> To: Colin Donohue
>> Cc: mpwg
>> Subject: Re: [MPWG] ginseng in the news
>> 
>> Colin and Jeanine,
>> 
>> Thanks for all you have just put out there. Agreed.
>> I really believe WNC residential and commercial development and periodic forest service/DOT maintenance probably do more damage to annihilate our herbal medicines in the area, more than poachers ever will.
>> I also think that we will still have ginseng in 10-20 years because the old-timers and their generations who harvest know how to proliferate the species as they harvest, scattering seeds and spreading roots.
>> It will be "wild cultivated" ginseng but it will still be considered wild. I believe Robert Eidus is trying to bring attention to the industry and he has a right to his opinion. I hope he's wrong and we can sustain our wild ginseng but if more people are moving into western NC and the developments    sprawl outwards, we may not have much of a forest to grow it!
>> 
>> Jeannie Dunn
>> Red Moon Herbs
>> 828-301-3010
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>> On Sep 5, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Colin Donohue wrote:
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>>> Absolutely.
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>>> That would be great. I regret I'm not in the role I once was, but this issue is still dear to my heart. 
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>>> A meeting of the minds, and forging of common strategies and efforts could be a great thing in both stewarding 'sang in the wild and supporting lifeways of the responsible ginseng stewards and harvesters out there. 
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>>> C
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>>> On 9/5/2013 8:23 PM, Jeanine Davis wrote:
>>>> On an open forum all I am willing to say is that I am not amused and this story could have been more accurate and hopeful. We do need to brainstorm on strategies to reduce poaching to conserve wild populations and encourage more wild simulated production.  I have some ideas, that are built on consumer demand and pressure.
>>>> 
>>>> Jeanine
>>>> 
>>>> Jeanine Davis, Associate Professor & Extension Specialist
>>>> Dept. of Horticultural Science, NC State University
>>>> website: ncherb.org
>>>> Sent from my Droid
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>>>> On Sep 5, 2013 7:46 PM, "Michael McGuffin" <MMcguffin at ahpa.org> wrote:
>>>>> Hello Colin,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I could not agree with you more that the information presented by Robert Eidus was unfortunate, at best. But Susan Leopold was exactly correct in calling attention to the very limited resources that are applied to plant conservation. This was an important message, and an appropriate message from United Plant Savers.
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>>>>> Michael
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>>>>> From: MPWG [mailto:mpwg-bounces at lists.plantconservation.org] On Behalf Of Colin Donohue
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:02 PM
>>>>> To: Susan Leopold
>>>>> Cc: mpwg
>>>>> Subject: Re: [MPWG] ginseng in the news
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> This is great, other than being wrong. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm amused to see Robert Eidus as the spokesperson for the survivability of Ginseng. It will be gone in 10-20 years?   That's idiotic.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm sure Mr. Eidus didn't mean what he was cast as saying on the clip, but it's still incorrect information. 
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>>>>> I'm very disappointed to see UPS trumpeting this incorrect and sensationalized clip. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, there are issues with ginseng harvest, and I'd be the first to shout from the mountaintop that poaching is a real issue that needs attention, and that more resources should go into plant conservation. But putting incorrect information out to spur public concern is disingenuous. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Colin
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 9/5/2013 5:15 PM, Susan Leopold wrote:
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>>>>> United Plant Savers has started a change.org letter to bring awareness to our members and the public and to show various agencies that the public cares and supports ginseng conservation efforts....
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Below is a link to the CBS story and to our change.org letter, also you can go to the UpS website www.unitedplantsavers.org for links to several recent news articles and ginseng recently published research.
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>>>>> Please join this campaign: http://chn.ge/15Eon5H
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>>>>> http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505269_162-57601454/ginseng-poaching-threatens-survival-of-plant-species/
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>>>>>  
>>>>> Susan Leopold, PhD
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>>>>> Executive Director, UpS
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>>>>> 703-667-0208
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>>>>> susan at unitedplantsavers.org
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