<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Yes the time is now to speak up. <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Sep 8, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Jeanine Davis <<a href="mailto:Jeanine_Davis@ncsu.edu">Jeanine_Davis@ncsu.edu</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr">Oh Randi, how dreadful...and now they want to frack in NC, too. This all makes me so angry. I do think it is time for more of us scientists to speak up.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Jeanine</p>
<p dir="ltr">Jeanine Davis, Associate Professor & Extension Specialist<br>
Dept. of Horticultural Science, NC State University<br>
website: <a href="http://ncherb.org">ncherb.org</a><br>
Sent from my Droid</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 8, 2013 3:19 PM, "Randi Pokladnik" <<a href="mailto:randi@clover.net">randi@clover.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">I did
my dissertation on poaching in 2008 and it is an issue in Ohio. I am worried now
because we have out of state people swarming the area fracking! If the frack
pads themselves and out of state vehicles (carrying invasives back and forth)
are not bad enough, we have invasive people so to speak, crossing properties
without any thought to privacy issues. We had one lady find dynamite charges set
up on her land in Belmont county Ohio... she was going to build a house and took
a walk around, the company claims it was all a big mistake but beware, I see
fracking trucks withdrawing water illegally from hidden areas as well as the
local MWCD lakes. This is so ridiculous! And then the earth quakes as well as
spent frack fluid being poured out in wooded regions.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">The
medicinals seem to be off the radar as far as ODNR is concerned when it comes to
getting out that natural gas.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Randi
Pokladnik</font></span></div>
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:mpwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org" target="_blank">mpwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeannie
Dunn<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 06, 2013 9:05 AM<br><b>To:</b> Colin
Donohue<br><b>Cc:</b> mpwg<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [MPWG] ginseng in the
news<br><br></font></div>Colin and Jeanine,
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<div>Thanks for all you have just put out there. Agreed.
<div>I really believe WNC residential and commercial development and periodic
forest service/DOT maintenance probably do more damage to annihilate our
herbal medicines in the area, more than poachers ever will.</div>
<div>I also think that we will still have ginseng in 10-20 years because the
old-timers and their generations who harvest know how to proliferate the
species as they harvest, scattering seeds and spreading roots.</div>
<div>It will be "wild cultivated" ginseng but it will still be considered
wild. I believe Robert Eidus is trying to bring attention to the industry and
he has a right to his opinion. I hope he's wrong and we can sustain our wild
ginseng but if more people are moving into western NC and the developments
sprawl outwards, we may not have much of a forest to grow it!</div>
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<div>On Sep 5, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Colin Donohue wrote:</div><br>
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<div>Absolutely.<br><br>That would be great. I regret
I'm not in the role I once was, but this issue is still dear to my heart.
<br><br>A meeting of the minds, and forging of common strategies and efforts
could be a great thing in both stewarding 'sang in the wild and supporting
lifeways of the responsible ginseng stewards and harvesters out there.
<br><br>C<br><br><br>On 9/5/2013 8:23 PM, Jeanine Davis wrote:<br></div>
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<p dir="ltr">On an open forum all I am willing to say is that I am not
amused and this story could have been more accurate and hopeful. We do
need to brainstorm on strategies to reduce poaching to conserve wild
populations and encourage more wild simulated production. I have
some ideas, that are built on consumer demand and pressure.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Jeanine</p>
<p dir="ltr">Jeanine Davis, Associate Professor & Extension
Specialist<br>Dept. of Horticultural Science, NC State
University<br>website: <a href="http://ncherb.org" target="_blank">ncherb.org</a><br>Sent from my Droid</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 5, 2013 7:46 PM, "Michael McGuffin" <<a href="mailto:MMcguffin@ahpa.org" target="_blank">MMcguffin@ahpa.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" size="4" face="Calibri"><span style="FONT-FAMILY:'Calibri','sans-serif';COLOR:windowtext;FONT-SIZE:14pt">I
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Susan Leopold was exactly correct in calling attention to the very
limited resources that are applied to plant conservation. This was an
important message, and an appropriate message from United Plant
Savers.</span></font></p>
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<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Colin
Donohue<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday,
September 05, 2013 3:02 PM<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">To:</span></b> Susan Leopold<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Cc:</span></b> mpwg<br><b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [MPWG] ginseng in the
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="FONT-SIZE:12pt">This is great, other than being wrong.
<br><br>I'm amused to see Robert Eidus as the spokesperson for the
survivability of Ginseng. It will be gone in 10-20 years?
That's idiotic. <br><br>I'm sure Mr. Eidus didn't mean what he was
cast as saying on the clip, but it's still incorrect information.
<br><br><br>I'm very disappointed to see UPS trumpeting this incorrect
and sensationalized clip. <br><br>Yes, there are issues with ginseng
harvest, and I'd be the first to shout from the mountaintop that
poaching is a real issue that needs attention, and that more resources
should go into plant conservation. But putting incorrect information out
to spur public concern is disingenuous. <br><br>Colin<br><br>On 9/5/2013
5:15 PM, Susan Leopold wrote:</span></font></p></div>
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Savers has started a <a href="http://change.org" target="_blank">change.org</a> letter to bring awareness to our
members and the public and to show various agencies that the public
cares and supports ginseng conservation
efforts....</span></font></p></div>
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several recent news articles and ginseng recently published
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