<div dir="ltr">Stephen, you must be referring to the Audubon tool, as the NatiVeg tool doesn’t cover the western states.  The Audubon tool is based on Biota of North America data, and the NatiVeg tool is based on NRCS Plant Materials data.  In defense of the NatiVeg tool, there is a disclaimer and a statement about seeking local recommendations.  The tool could better serve restoration interests if it had better data, and I understand they would fully embrace expanding the database with local knowledge. [I’m not involved with NatiVeg in any way, but I have talked to them about it.]<br><br>I am currently working on a similar tool as an update to the maps and lists on the Native Seed Network, with place-based species lists and a directory of commercially available native seed, linked to seed vendors.  It is challenging to provide good lists for large geographic areas, and obviously it is really important to have input from local experts.  I’m glad to see the level of interest in this, and look forward to tapping into the knowledge of local experts like yourselves to help me refine the lists on the Native Seed Network.<div><br></div><div>  Rob</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Rob Fiegener<br>Native Seed Network<br>Institute for Applied Ecology<br>desk 541.753.3099 x201<br>mobile 541.760.2253<br><a href="http://www.nativeseednetwork.org" target="_blank">www.nativeseednetwork.org</a><br><a href="http://www.appliedeco.org" target="_blank">www.appliedeco.org</a><div><br><div>See you at the 2017 National Native Seed Conference! <a href="http://nativeseed.org" target="_blank">nativeseed.org</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Stephen Rae <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stephen.rae@gmail.com" target="_blank">stephen.rae@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="white-space:pre-wrap">Just tested for zip code covering Napa Valley CA and selected contiguous valleys.  The 45 species listed included 44 natives common in the area and 1 from elsewhere.  The 44 are currently used in wildlife/bee, native and drought tolerant gardens here.  No cultivars were included. Several of the recommended were recently planted in my garden when we transitioned to a low water demand yard. They were recommended by the designer and readily available in the trade.  The tool works here.<br><br>Stephen P. Rae, Ph.D.<br>Botanist-Bryologist<br>Napa Valley CA</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 6:22 AM Randall, John L <<a href="mailto:jrandall@email.unc.edu" target="_blank">jrandall@email.unc.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">





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<b class="m_-4225677241400427528gmail_msg">On Behalf Of </b>Haidet, Margaret (Megan)<br class="m_-4225677241400427528gmail_msg">
<b class="m_-4225677241400427528gmail_msg">Sent:</b> Monday, November 28, 2016 4:17 PM<br class="m_-4225677241400427528gmail_msg">
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<b class="m_-4225677241400427528gmail_msg">Subject:</b> [PCA] NEWS: NatiVeg Plant Selection Tool<u class="m_-4225677241400427528gmail_msg"></u><u class="m_-4225677241400427528gmail_msg"></u></span></p></div></div><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" class="m_-4225677241400427528gmail_msg"><div class="m_-4225677241400427528m_-4591928660779313512WordSection1 m_-4225677241400427528gmail_msg">
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