<div style="white-space:pre-wrap">Rob<br><br>Correct. The Audubon tool.<br><br>Steve</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 9:37 AM Rob Fiegener <<a href="mailto:rob@appliedeco.org">rob@appliedeco.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Stephen, you must be referring to the Audubon tool, as the NatiVeg tool doesn’t cover the western states. The Audubon tool is based on Biota of North America data, and the NatiVeg tool is based on NRCS Plant Materials data. In defense of the NatiVeg tool, there is a disclaimer and a statement about seeking local recommendations. The tool could better serve restoration interests if it had better data, and I understand they would fully embrace expanding the database with local knowledge. [I’m not involved with NatiVeg in any way, but I have talked to them about it.]<br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">I am currently working on a similar tool as an update to the maps and lists on the Native Seed Network, with place-based species lists and a directory of commercially available native seed, linked to seed vendors. It is challenging to provide good lists for large geographic areas, and obviously it is really important to have input from local experts. I’m glad to see the level of interest in this, and look forward to tapping into the knowledge of local experts like yourselves to help me refine the lists on the Native Seed Network.<div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"> Rob</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><br clear="all" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_7851751519262621280gmail_signature gmail_msg" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">Rob Fiegener<br class="gmail_msg">Native Seed Network<br class="gmail_msg">Institute for Applied Ecology<br class="gmail_msg">desk 541.753.3099 x201<br class="gmail_msg">mobile 541.760.2253<br class="gmail_msg"><a href="http://www.nativeseednetwork.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">www.nativeseednetwork.org</a><br class="gmail_msg"><a href="http://www.appliedeco.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">www.appliedeco.org</a><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">See you at the 2017 National Native Seed Conference! <a href="http://nativeseed.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">nativeseed.org</a></div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg">
<br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg">On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 10:34 AM, Stephen Rae <span dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:stephen.rae@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">stephen.rae@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="white-space:pre-wrap" class="gmail_msg">Just tested for zip code covering Napa Valley CA and selected contiguous valleys. The 45 species listed included 44 natives common in the area and 1 from elsewhere. The 44 are currently used in wildlife/bee, native and drought tolerant gardens here. No cultivars were included. Several of the recommended were recently planted in my garden when we transitioned to a low water demand yard. They were recommended by the designer and readily available in the trade. The tool works here.<br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg">Stephen P. Rae, Ph.D.<br class="gmail_msg">Botanist-Bryologist<br class="gmail_msg">Napa Valley CA</div><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_7851751519262621280h5 gmail_msg"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_msg">On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 6:22 AM Randall, John L <<a href="mailto:jrandall@email.unc.edu" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">jrandall@email.unc.edu</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"></div></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_7851751519262621280h5 gmail_msg">
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is a remote, Internet-based tool that works on desktops, laptops, tablets and mobile phones. Developed by NBCI and University of Tennessee Institute of Agriculture Information Technology Service and beta-tested by a variety of outside reviewers, NatiVeg is
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