<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hi Johnny, That's what I thought! Agree
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">-Patricia</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Patricia S. De Angelis, Ph.D.<br>
Botanist - Division of Scientific Authority<br>
Chair - Plant Conservation Alliance - Medicinal Plant Working Group<br>
US Fish & Wildlife Service<br>
4401 N. Fairfax Dr., Suite 110<br>
Arlington, VA 22203<br>
703-358-1708 x1753<br>
FAX: 703-358-2276<br>
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Promoting sustainable use and conservation of our native medicinal plants.<br>
<www.nps.gov/plants/medicinal><br>
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<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">RE: [PCA] FW: Draft green building code
contains requirements
regarding native
& invasive plants: Comments due
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<br><font size=4 face="Times New Roman">Patricia: I TRIED to say
that all non-natives should be <i>checked</i> against an invasives list…
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<br><font size=4 face="Times New Roman">Steve’s suggestion is a good one,
particularly since it would be in line with the Sustainable Sites initiative…
But in my opinion, there should still be a “no actual or potentially
invasive plants” clause for that particular region. JR</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><b>From:</b> native-plants-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org
[mailto:native-plants-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Patricia_DeAngelis@fws.gov<b><br>
Sent:</b> Monday, May 10, 2010 2:27 PM<b><br>
To:</b> native-plants@lists.plantconservation.org<b><br>
Subject:</b> Re: [PCA] FW: Draft green building code contains requirements
regarding native & invasive plants: Comments due May 14</font>
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For the species that are in the database, NatureServe indicates that they
are non-native. They also have a resource for assessing invasiveness:</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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NatureServe's Invasive Species Assessment Protocol: Evaluating Non-Native
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http://www.natureserve.org/getData/plantData.jsp</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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Not sure I understand Johnny's comment here:</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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"</font><font size=4 face="Times New Roman">Perhaps it would be possible
to include language “requiring” that any non-natives not be listed as
invasive by the particular state Exotic Pest Plant/Invasive Species Council,
Native Plant Society, or whatever group manages the state invasive plant
list.</font><font size=4 color=#008000 face="Times New Roman">"</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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Are you saying all non-natives should be put on an invasive list? or, that
all non-natives should be <i>checked </i>against an invasives list?</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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Thanks,</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=4 color=#008000 face="Times New Roman"><br>
Patricia</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
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Patricia S. De Angelis, Ph.D.<br>
Botanist - Division of Scientific Authority<br>
Chair - Plant Conservation Alliance - Medicinal Plant Working Group<br>
US Fish & Wildlife Service<br>
4401 N. Fairfax Dr., Suite 110<br>
Arlington, VA 22203<br>
703-358-1708 x1753<br>
FAX: 703-358-2276<br>
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Promoting sustainable use and conservation of our native medicinal plants.<br>
<www.nps.gov/plants/medicinal></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><br>
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<td><font size=1 face="Times New Roman">Re: [PCA] FW: Draft green building
code contains requirements
regarding native & invasive plants:
Comments due May 14</font></table>
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I agree with Steve that native plants should not be required, but it should
be pointed out that if, for example, Lepidopteran host plants are desired,
then natives are necessary… There are also, of course, other benefits
of natives….</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=4 face="Times New Roman"><br>
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Perhaps it would be possible to include language “requiring” that any
non-natives not be listed as invasive by the particular state Exotic Pest
Plant/Invasive Species Council, Native Plant Society, or whatever group
manages the state invasive plant list.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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From:</b> native-plants-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org [mailto:native-plants-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Grund, Steve<b><br>
Sent:</b> Monday, May 10, 2010 1:50 PM<b><br>
To:</b> 'native-plants@lists.plantconservation.org'<b><br>
Subject:</b> [PCA] FW: Draft green building code contains requirements
regarding native & invasive plants: Comments due May 14</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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I do not think the use of native plants should be a requirement for a green
building code, but it would be prudent to have high standards for avoiding
the use of invasives. I don’t think we need to tell people that they shouldn’t
plant tulips. It would be good to be able to distinguish between species
like Crocus vernus, which has a long track record and, as far as I know
(the situation may be different in warmer climates) is not invasive, and
species like Pennisetum alopecuroides, which has cultivars that are turning
out to be more invasive than previously reported (we have been battling
cv. hamlin at our headquarters in Pittsburgh, as I have previously reported
on the Mid-Atlantic EPPC listserve). <br>
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It would be good to have a protocol for testing taxa that are relatively
new to horticulture before they are considered to be of low risk for invasiveness.
I doubt we can prevent the sale of unproven taxa, but we can alert conscientious
consumers. As individuals, people might want to cautiously try some of
the newcomers and report on their behavior, but for plantings around green
buildings, they should not be used unless as part of a testing procedure
with good safeguards, in my somewhat humble opinion.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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Does anyone know of a reliable source that ranks species, like maybe Fagus
sylvatica for instance, for which we can be confident are NOT invasive?
– Steve</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><br>
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<p><font size=2 face="Times New Roman">Steve Grund<br>
Botanist<br>
Pennsylvania Natural Heritage Program<br>
Western Pennsylvania Conservancy<br>
800 Waterfront Dr<br>
Pittsburgh, PA 15222<br>
412-586-2350</font><font size=3 color=#000080 face="Times New Roman"> </font>
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From:</b> native-plants-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org [mailto:native-plants-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>SUSAN MCLAUGHLIN<b><br>
Sent:</b> Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:58 AM<b><br>
To:</b> vnps-pot@yahoogroups.com; native-plants@lists.plantconservation.org;
announcements@chesapeakenetwork.org<b><br>
Subject:</b> [PCA] Draft green building code contains requirements regarding
native & invasive plants: Comments due May 14</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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The International Code Council (ICC), the principal publisher of building
safety codes in the U.S., is seeking public comment on their draft
International Green Construction Code (IGCC). <br>
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IGCC is written in code language and is intended to be used in conjunction
with jurisdictions’ existing building codes. IGCC sponsors include
ICC; the American Institute of Architects (AIA); the US Green Building
Council; the American Society of Heating, Refrigerating, and Air-conditioning
Engineers (ASHRAE); ASTM International; and the Illuminating Engineering
Society (IES).</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><br>
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Comments on the current version of the code (Public Version 1.0) are due
<b>Friday, May 14</b>. <br>
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The draft code includes a number of requirements that pertain to the selection
of plants and management of invasive plant species. Each of these
requirements are in Chapter 4, “Site Development and Land Use.”
Specifically, see Sections 402.3.1.3 (under “Predesign site inventory
and assessment”), 402.3.3.1.1.3 (under “Potable water”), 402.3.5.6
(“Invasive species”), and 404.2.3 (Heat Island Mitigation/ Shade by trees).</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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Additionally, Chapter 2 contains a definition for “Invasive Plant Species.”.</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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Some things to consider when reviewing and commenting on the code:</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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-- Is the definition for “Invasive Plant Species” correct? As written,
will it be effective in preventing the planting, and encouraging the removal,
of invasive plant species on building sites in all the regions of the U.S.?
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-- Is the establishment phase for water use too long? Too short?</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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-- For shading to achieve heat island mitigation goals, the tree canopy
is to be measured at five-year canopy growth. Does this requirement
have any implications for the selection of trees? Would a sufficient
variety of native trees achieve the required canopy layer in 5 years?
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-- With the exception of trees chosen to meet the heat island mitigation
requirements, IGCC does not require planting of native plants at a site.
Should it? If so, should it require that ALL plants be native,
or should there be a minimum percentage, e.g., require that at least 60%
of new plantings be native?</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">
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-- The term “native species” is not used in the document. Rather,
the document refers to trees “that are native to the region and climate
zone in which the project site is located.” Should the document
use more specific terminology? If so, what terms or definitions should
be included? <br>
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The draft code and information on the comment process are are available
at </font><a href=http://www.iccsafe.org/cs/IGCC/Pages/default.aspx target=blank><font size=2 color=#800080 face="Times New Roman"><u>http://www.iccsafe.org/cs/IGCC/Pages/default.aspx</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Times New Roman">
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