<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I'm not sure what Bill suggests we're
not to forget, but providing valuable information and area specific wildflower
seeds, pictures as suggested by Becky sounds like an outline for a national
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">How does it get organized?</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Lew Gorman</font>
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<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Sent by: native-plants-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org</font>
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<br><font size=2><tt>I profoundly disagree. We all started somewhere-
don't forget that.<br>
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William Schlegel<br>
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>From: "Becky Erickson" <beckyerick@socket.net><br>
>To: "Steve Erickson" <wean@whidbey.net>,"Olivia
Kwong" <br>
><plant@plantconservation.org><br>
>CC: native-plants@lists.plantconservation.org, <br>
>apwg@lists.plantconservation.org<br>
>Subject: Re: [PCA] QUESTION: Wildflower Seed Postcards<br>
>Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 00:13:11 -0500<br>
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>I agree -<br>
>The general public does not know wild seed should be planted in December
to<br>
>germinate. Fewer know what the seedlings look like and fewer yet know
the<br>
>specific habitat of most wild species. How many people know that Iris<br>
>virginicus takes about 4 months to stratify (cold/wet), then needs
to be<br>
>planted in a moist/wet, sunny spot such as a rain garden? If this habitat
<br>
>is<br>
>good, it will bloom the second year. It is a mystery to most that Indian<br>
>paintbrush is an annual that needs other native plants to parasitize.
Blue<br>
>columbine is indigenous to montaine wetlands (high altitude moist soils).<br>
>Gaillardia and Oenethera usually prefer dry sandy soil in full sun;
if sent<br>
>to be planted in damp clay soils of the Midwest, they certainly won't<br>
>persist. And on and on . . . I think it is absurd
to use these valuable<br>
>seeds to be "thrown to the wind" (sent to people ignorant
of their value or<br>
>habitat needs). Usually these seeds will be sent to people and places
where<br>
>they won't persist so they can't really be considered alien invasives,
but<br>
>what a waste!!!!!!!!<br>
><br>
>A postcard with a good photo of the plant, their cultural/habitat needs
and<br>
>encouragement to visit the plants in their ecoregion printed would
be of <br>
>far<br>
>greater benefit toward the education of the uninitiated than to send
them<br>
>seeds that need to be used in the region they came from.<br>
>Becky Erickson<br>
>Retired Missouri Ecotype Program Coordinator<br>
>Ashland MO 65010-0496<br>
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>----- Original Message -----<br>
>From: "Steve Erickson" <wean@whidbey.net><br>
>To: "Olivia Kwong" <plant@plantconservation.org><br>
>Cc: <native-plants@lists.plantconservation.org>;<br>
><apwg@lists.plantconservation.org><br>
>Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:16 PM<br>
>Subject: Re: [PCA] QUESTION: Wildflower Seed Postcards<br>
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>|I don't know of any regulation, but how about common sense.<br>
>| The NPS should know better than to sell these things.<br>
>| -Steve Erickson<br>
>| Frosty Hollow Ecological Restoration<br>
>| ==================================================<br>
>| > I thought I'd just bring this up as an interesting topic for<br>
>| discussion.<br>
>| ><br>
>| > The Alien Plant Working Group Chair, Jil Swearingen,<br>
>| recently got an<br>
>| > e-mail from a bookstore manager for two National Park<br>
>| Service National<br>
>| > Monuments about wildflower seed postcards. Although the<br>
>| product in<br>
>| > question instructs the buyer not to open it within National<br>
>| Parks, it<br>
>| > also<br>
>| > said that the packets can be sent & planted in most parts
of<br>
>| the world.<br>
>| > The species used for the product being discussed were Wild<br>
>| Iris, Indian<br>
>| > Blanketflower, Primrose, Indian Paintbrush, and Blue<br>
>| Columbine.<br>
>| > However,<br>
>| > quick Google search shows that all sorts of companies sell<br>
>| similar<br>
>| > postcards with a variety of species and I know I've seen<br>
>| cards made from<br>
>| > plantable paper with seeds embedded in the fibers. I know<br>
>| that people<br>
>| > already trade seeds for things via postal mail, but postcard<br>
>| products<br>
>| > like<br>
>| > these have the potential to become popular with the general<br>
>| public and<br>
>| > increase planting of seeds outside their natural areas.<br>
>| There's also<br>
>| > the<br>
>| > invasiveness question as well.<br>
>| ><br>
>| > Anyone have any thoughts about the matter or know of any<br>
>| regulations<br>
>| > that<br>
>| > come into play here? It seems like it would be nearly<br>
>| impossible to<br>
>| > enforce rules for mailed postcards because they might not<br>
>| be easily<br>
>| > detected.<br>
>| ><br>
>| > Olivia<br>
>| > CPC/PCA<br>
>| > http://www.nps.gov/plants/<br>
>| ><br>
>| ><br>
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