<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">The uninformed distribution of these
seeds is a scary thought. If the package highlighted an eco-regional
map where the seeds should only be planted may help. It seems that
halting the sale would be impossible, but adding planting information to
help halt the seeds adding to the invasive problem might be a productive
tactic.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Maybe some organization is already doing
this. If not, there seems to be an interest from those on this string
of emails.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Thoughts?</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Lew</font>
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<br><font size=2><tt>This sounds like an education opportunity well worth
tapping into. What<br>
companies are making these postcards? Could PCA contact them and
provide<br>
guidance on the appropriate language and pictures needed to clearly educate<br>
the public on how and where to plant the seeds?<br>
<br>
I understand that the seeds could fall into the hands of someone that might<br>
not read all instructions clearly, just as easily as a newly converted<br>
native plant enthusiast. However, I think it is important to keep in mind<br>
that these packets are already being sold (minus proper instructions),<br>
there are hundreds of internationally circulating seed catalogs, and that<br>
with a quick Google search and mouse clicks propagative material of almost<br>
any plant can be bought and shipped.<br>
<br>
Lew and Becky - if you were suggesting forming a smaller working
group to<br>
look into this, I would be interested.<br>
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Mary K. Byrne<br>
Seeds of Success<br>
National Collections Data Manager<br>
202-452-7767<br>
www.nps.gov/plants/sos/<br>
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Steve Erickson
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<wean@whidbey.net
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Re: [PCA] QUESTION: Wildflower Seed <br>
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I like the postcard idea, but the problem with seeds is that<br>
people visit US National Parks from all over the world. So if<br>
seeds are distributed in, say, a park in California, they might<br>
be picked up by people from Texas, New York, New Zealand,<br>
Poland, and Brasil! They take them home and plant them. Then<br>
these people either forget about them or marvel at how well<br>
they do in their gardens and pass them on to their friends.<br>
Thus do weeds inadvertantly become introduced.<br>
-Steve Erickson<br>
Frosty Hollow Ecological Restoratiom<br>
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> I'm not sure what Bill suggests we're not to forget, but<br>
providing<br>
> valuable information and area specific wildflower seeds,<br>
pictures as<br>
> suggested by Becky sounds like an outline for a national<br>
program.<br>
> How does it get organized?<br>
> Lew Gorman<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> "William Schlegel" <wischlegel@hotmail.com><br>
> Sent by: native-plants-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org<br>
> 04/25/2007 11:17 AM<br>
><br>
> To<br>
> beckyerick@socket.net, wean@whidbey.net,<br>
plant@plantconservation.org<br>
> cc<br>
> native-plants@lists.plantconservation.org,<br>
> apwg@lists.plantconservation.org<br>
> Subject<br>
> Re: [PCA] QUESTION: Wildflower Seed Postcards<br>
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><br>
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><br>
><br>
> I profoundly disagree. We all started somewhere- don't<br>
forget that.<br>
><br>
><br>
> William Schlegel<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> >From: "Becky Erickson" <beckyerick@socket.net><br>
> >To: "Steve Erickson" <wean@whidbey.net>,"Olivia
Kwong"<br>
> ><plant@plantconservation.org><br>
> >CC: native-plants@lists.plantconservation.org,<br>
> >apwg@lists.plantconservation.org<br>
> >Subject: Re: [PCA] QUESTION: Wildflower Seed<br>
Postcards<br>
> >Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 00:13:11 -0500<br>
> ><br>
> >I agree -<br>
> >The general public does not know wild seed should be<br>
planted in<br>
> December<br>
> to<br>
> >germinate. Fewer know what the seedlings look like and<br>
fewer yet know<br>
> the<br>
> >specific habitat of most wild species. How many people know<br>
that Iris<br>
> >virginicus takes about 4 months to stratify (cold/wet), then<br>
needs to<br>
> be<br>
> >planted in a moist/wet, sunny spot such as a rain garden? If<br>
this<br>
> habitat<br>
><br>
> >is<br>
> >good, it will bloom the second year. It is a mystery to most<br>
that<br>
> Indian<br>
> >paintbrush is an annual that needs other native plants to<br>
parasitize.<br>
> Blue<br>
> >columbine is indigenous to montaine wetlands (high altitude<br>
moist<br>
> soils).<br>
> >Gaillardia and Oenethera usually prefer dry sandy soil in full<br>
sun; if<br>
> sent<br>
> >to be planted in damp clay soils of the Midwest, they<br>
certainly won't<br>
> >persist. And on and on . . . I think it is
absurd to use<br>
these<br>
> valuable<br>
> >seeds to be "thrown to the wind" (sent to people ignorant<br>
of their<br>
> value<br>
> or<br>
> >habitat needs). Usually these seeds will be sent to people<br>
and places<br>
> where<br>
> >they won't persist so they can't really be considered alien<br>
invasives,<br>
> but<br>
> >what a waste!!!!!!!!<br>
> ><br>
> >A postcard with a good photo of the plant, their<br>
cultural/habitat needs<br>
> and<br>
> >encouragement to visit the plants in their ecoregion printed<br>
would be<br>
> of<br>
> >far<br>
> >greater benefit toward the education of the uninitiated<br>
than to send<br>
> them<br>
> >seeds that need to be used in the region they came from.<br>
> >Becky Erickson<br>
> >Retired Missouri Ecotype Program Coordinator<br>
> >Ashland MO 65010-0496<br>
> ><br>
> >----- Original Message -----<br>
> >From: "Steve Erickson" <wean@whidbey.net><br>
> >To: "Olivia Kwong" <plant@plantconservation.org><br>
> >Cc: <native-plants@lists.plantconservation.org>;<br>
> ><apwg@lists.plantconservation.org><br>
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 6:16 PM<br>
> >Subject: Re: [PCA] QUESTION: Wildflower Seed<br>
Postcards<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >|I don't know of any regulation, but how about common<br>
sense.<br>
> >| The NPS should know better than to sell these things.<br>
> >| -Steve Erickson<br>
> >| Frosty Hollow Ecological Restoration<br>
> >| ==================================================<br>
> >| > I thought I'd just bring this up as an interesting topic<br>
for<br>
> >| discussion.<br>
> >| ><br>
> >| > The Alien Plant Working Group Chair, Jil Swearingen,<br>
> >| recently got an<br>
> >| > e-mail from a bookstore manager for two National Park<br>
> >| Service National<br>
> >| > Monuments about wildflower seed postcards. Although<br>
the<br>
> >| product in<br>
> >| > question instructs the buyer not to open it within<br>
National<br>
> >| Parks, it<br>
> >| > also<br>
> >| > said that the packets can be sent & planted in most<br>
parts of<br>
> >| the world.<br>
> >| > The species used for the product being discussed were<br>
Wild<br>
> >| Iris, Indian<br>
> >| > Blanketflower, Primrose, Indian Paintbrush, and Blue<br>
> >| Columbine.<br>
> >| > However,<br>
> >| > quick Google search shows that all sorts of companies<br>
sell<br>
> >| similar<br>
> >| > postcards with a variety of species and I know I've seen<br>
> >| cards made from<br>
> >| > plantable paper with seeds embedded in the fibers. I<br>
know<br>
> >| that people<br>
> >| > already trade seeds for things via postal mail, but<br>
postcard<br>
> >| products<br>
> >| > like<br>
> >| > these have the potential to become popular with the<br>
general<br>
> >| public and<br>
> >| > increase planting of seeds outside their natural areas.<br>
> >| There's also<br>
> >| > the<br>
> >| > invasiveness question as well.<br>
> >| ><br>
> >| > Anyone have any thoughts about the matter or know of<br>
any<br>
> >| regulations<br>
> >| > that<br>
> >| > come into play here? It seems like it would be nearly<br>
> >| impossible to<br>
> >| > enforce rules for mailed postcards because they might<br>
not<br>
> >| be easily<br>
> >| > detected.<br>
> >| ><br>
> >| > Olivia<br>
> >| > CPC/PCA<br>
> >| > http://www.nps.gov/plants/<br>
> >| ><br>
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