<html><head><base href="x-msg://157/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Very sobering. Like the fishermen in Cape Cod. No regard for the future, for the land, or for anything other than an instant buck. Very sad.—Roy<div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Jan 10, 2014, at 7:59 AM, Jeanine Davis wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">This is all so frustrating. And it is discouraging forest landowners from planting wild-simulated ginseng because they are afraid with all this publicity it is in even greater danger of being poached. Jeanine<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Jeanine M. Davis, Ph.D.</span></b><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></span><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Associate Professor and Extension Specialist</span></b><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></span><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Dept. of Horticultural Science, NC State University</span></b><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></span><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: red; ">Email:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="Jeanine_Davis@ncsu.edu%20" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Jeanine_Davis@ncsu.edu<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></a></span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><br></span><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: red; ">Websites:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: red; "> </span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: blue; "><a href="http://ncherb.org/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://ncherb.org</a></span><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: red; "> </span></b><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><a href="http://ncspecialtycrops.org/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://ncspecialtycrops.org</a></span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><a href="http://ncorganic.org/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://ncorganic.org</a></span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></span><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: red; ">Blog:</span></b><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://ncalternativecropsandorganics.blogspot.com/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://ncalternativecropsandorganics.blogspot.com<span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></a></span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><br></span><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: red; ">Twitter:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://twitter.com/JeanineNCSU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://twitter.com/JeanineNCSU</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><br></span><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: red; ">Facebook:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><a href="http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeanine-Davis/1442912228" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>http://www.facebook.com/people/Jeanine-Davis/1442912228</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><br></span><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: red; ">Address:</span></b><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Mtn. 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Crops Research & Extension Center</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">455 Research Drive,</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Mills River, NC 28759</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></span><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: red; ">Phone:</span></b><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>828-684-3562 </span><b><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></b><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: red; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>FAX:</span></b><b><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></b><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">828-684-8715</span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-top-style: none; border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: blue; border-left-width: 1.5pt; padding-top: 0in; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 4pt; "><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>MPWG [mailto:mpwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Susan Leopold<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, January 10, 2014 10:47 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ForestRuss@aol.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">ForestRuss@aol.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:MPWG@lists.plantconservation.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">MPWG@lists.plantconservation.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [MPWG] ginseng poaching program<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Thank you Russ for pointing out the information of wrong identification, which sets the stage for the show and possibly more of its kind in the works. I personally think it is horrific to have a ginseng show that glorifies poaching and all the illegal activity that took place in this show to continue with no consequences. If is was a show about poaching a protected animal I wonder how the public would react?<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I think this quote from the main ginseng dealers sums up how plants are perceived.. see quote and link below.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">UpS has released a formal press release warning the History Channel about the dangers of promoting poaching of a threatened species...<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "> "its a protected species, but I don't know why. Its a plant'<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><a href="http://www.register-herald.com/local/x1956140531/New-reality-show-focuses-on-state-ginseng-business" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.register-herald.com/local/x1956140531/New-reality-show-focuses-on-state-ginseng-business</a><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><a href="http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/12/25/new-reality-show-focuses-on-west-virginia-ginseng-business/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2013/12/25/new-reality-show-focuses-on-west-virginia-ginseng-business/</a><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Jan 10, 2014, at 10:19 AM,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ForestRuss@aol.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">ForestRuss@aol.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><div id="role_body"><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">MPWG:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">A new program had its debut on History Channel yesterday 01/09/14 called "Appalachian Outlaws.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">The program appears to be more about the being a ginseng poacher than almost anything else and I am uncertain how it could impact ginseng growers...beyond making theft a thrill game. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">One concern I have as a long time grower of black Cohosh in a forest setting is that one of the poachers already has identified "dolls eye", Actaea pachypoda, as black Cohosh, a very incorrect ID. They made a point of showing the fruit and the foliage. <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">As a grower of the medicinal black Cohosh plant I think that in 2014 black Cohosh root buyers might have to be more vigilant in vetting their purchases to make sure they aren't getting poison.<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">I would appreciate other peoples' thoughts or comments on the program<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">Russ Richardson, Certified Forester<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br>_______________________________________________<br>PCA's Medicinal Plant Working Group mailing list<br><a href="mailto:MPWG@lists.plantconservation.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">MPWG@lists.plantconservation.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.plantconservation.org/mailman/listinfo/mpwg_lists.plantconservation.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.plantconservation.org/mailman/listinfo/mpwg_lists.plantconservation.org</a><br><br>To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:MPWG-request@lists.plantconservation.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">MPWG-request@lists.plantconservation.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject line.<br><br>Disclaimer<br>Any advice given on this list regarding diagnosis or treatments etc. reflects ONLY the opinion of the individual who posts the message. 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