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<p>So everybody agrees that we need to develop local seed banks. How, do you propose to do that when state regulations require replanting of the seed in the "immediate proximity" or within "50 feet" as is the law in KY, using "no tool other than a finger" NC
regulations state within "100 feet" of the harvested plant, Ohio law requires that the seed be planted "at the place where the plant is collected". TN requires replanting berries "in the immediate proximity" NY has a 50 foot rule also as perhaps other states
do as well. NC, KY, TN and KY produce most of the wild ginseng that is harvested each year. The only way it will be possible to develop any significant "local seed banks" in these states would be to allow seed to be taken from the harvest site and replanted
in a secure location. Diggers have always replanted seed on site to allow populations to rebound but this will never establish local seed banks. How do you propose protecting those plants that constitute "local seed banks" on the private property where the
roots were dug? In order to do what everyone seems to agree needs to be done, you would have to change many state regulations. Good luck with that! Have any if you ever actually tried to get a state to change its regulations? I have, and if the rule change
requires new legislation, passed by state legislatures, the process is extraordinarily difficult. What language would the new regulations have? Ask the people in PA and VT how easy it is to change an existing regulation. </p>
<p>So, maybe the people who work within public forestland will somehow decide to drop whatever it is they are already doing to change regulations so that they would be allowed them to develop their own "local seed banks" on public land. How secure would those
local seed banks be? Considering the current state of poaching on public land, I doubt if these local seed banks would be any more secure, than the populations within the park that are already being decimated. </p>
<p>Sometimes I wonder if the people who propose the regulations have any idea whatsoever of what is required to grow ginseng. It sounds so easy to "develop local seed banks". All that is required is to collect local seed and grow it somewhere safe. The problem
is that ginseng does not grow just "anywhere"! If it was easy to grow in any "secure" location, this whole issue would be moot. When ginseng is grown at any density that would allow for reasonable seed production, diseases will occur. The diseases that affect
ginseng are not the result of the introduction of cultivated seed into wild populations. These diseases occur in wild populations as well, as has been well documented by pathologists from Cornell and elsewhere back in the early 1900's. When ginseng is moved
and transplanted elsewhere from its local environment it loses much of its resistance to disease. Virtually everybody who has tried to grow ginseng in any significant quantity is well aware of this. Many seed sellers and growers such as myself, would love
to be able to sell "local" seed. We have all transplanted wild rootlets onto our own secure property only to find out in a few seasons that diseases break out. So we spray and we spray and we spray, and in a few generations what we have is "cultivated" ginseng
that is as dependent on the chemicals as the cultivated seed we buy from Canada and Wisconsin. Artificial selection of plants protected by fungicides will soon render wild populations cultivated. So what are we preserving?
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<p>Once again, well intentioned, but not well thought out ideas and regulations, may do more harm than good.
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<p>As for maintaining the genetic integrity of any given population, one needs to think about how that population became genetically unique in the first place. 85% of the forestland in the Northeast was cut down in the early 1900's. As the forest has returned,
so has ginseng in areas that are ecologically suitable for it to grow. Most of the ginseng that is growing in the East now, is descended from cultivated seed produced by the more than 5,000 wooden lathe shade gardens in NY in 1910 as well as similar cultivated
sites in Ohio, PA, MO, WI, VT and elsewhere. That is a simple fact, as anyone who has bothered to study the history of ginseng should be aware of.
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<p>Of course isolated populations will tend to become genetically distinct and locally adapted as Marla and others have noted, Wansang Lim, a Cornell graduate student, noted such genetic distinctions even within NY state. The closer the populations were geographically,
the more they looked like each other genetically. The bottom line is that specific environments will determine whether or not ginseng will grow and naturalize in any given location. When cultivated seed from Ontario or Wisconsin is planted in a suitable environment,
it may or may not naturalize. If it does naturalize, then the ginseng which results from that naturalization is wild ginseng.
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<p>For 30 years the regulators at USF and W have strongly discouraged the planting of cultivated seed in forestland due to concerns about disease introduction as well as outbreeding depression. Despite the fact that this practice has been widespread for more
than 100 years, has there ever been any documented cases of this actually occurring? Has anyone ever actually seen a wild population decline or die due to outbreeding depression or introduced disease? If so, I would like see the evidence.
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<p>Instead of wasting time, effort and money trying to establish local seed banks, authorities should encourage, not discourage, the mass plantings of ginseng seed on private property. Only when this "wild simulated ginseng" is being produced in sufficient
quantity to reduce prices significantly, will the remaining truly wild populations in the Parks and Public lands be secure and preserved.
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 10, 2013 12:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> shsa@sasktel.net; Susan; Jeanine Davis; MoonBranch Botanicals; Robert Layton Beyfuss<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">All,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">As a scientist who cares very much about ginseng, I DO want to speak up.
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">FYI, Susan and I have been working together to try to obtain funding to enlist interested parties to develop seed banks containing
plants to conserve the genetic diversity and the regional genetic integrity of wild ginseng populations. As per Susan’s letter to request support of the federal government, plants in the seed bank would serve as seed sources for restoration of
<b>local</b> populations with <b>locally </b>derived seed. The attached paper by Schlag and McIntosh (2012) (this is not the paper on the UpS website) demonstrates that DNA markers can be used to identify the region of origin of ginseng plants. In fact, we
were able to identify plants in a wild population that were almost certainly grown from non-local seed. In the paper’s conclusion, we recommended creating regional seed banks and suggested an approach to create the seed banks.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoListParagraph" style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0in"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">The e-mails about the unintended consequences of banning wild harvest are VERY timely. Maryland, DNR has recently banned
wild ginseng harvest from state lands. Next week, I will be participating in a teleconference regarding this ban and will send Connie and Bob’s e-mails to become a point for discussion.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Dr. Marla S. McIntosh</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">Professor of Plant Sciences</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">University of Maryland</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">College Park, Maryland 20742</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: #1f497d">mmcintos@umd.edu</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Connie Kehler<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 09, 2013 9:44 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Susan; Jeanine Davis; MoonBranch Botanicals; Robert Layton Beyfuss<br>
<b>Cc:</b> mpwg<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MPWG] ginseng in the news</span></p>
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<p>Thanks Robert</p>
<p>The only recourse we would have had in Ontario - was to have had the wild simulated growers on a program like our GACPs.. This along with your help would have proven that they were legit. And OMNR was looking at that as an option but hindsight - sigh.</p>
<p>You are dead on - on the effect of the ban... There are good people out there that have been put in an impossible situation. We need to learn from this.</p>
<p>Connie</p>
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Dear Connie</span></p>
<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">Thank you for posting. This is a classic example of what harm can occur when good intentions are not thought out. When Ontario abruptly decided to ban all ginseng harvest, I
was immediately contacted by a number of woodland growers whom I had worked with for years, either consulting or selling seed. They immediately found themselves unable to sell their roots. I wrote letters telling the authorities that these folks were bona
fide growers and could prove they had purchased seed and had grown their woodland ginseng. Indeed I had visited some of these growers and had inspected their beds. I was told that since wild simulated and truly wild ginseng were visually indistinguishable,
what was to stop the growers from secretly buying truly wild ginseng and mixing it with their wild simulated?
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<p><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'; COLOR: black">The intention of the ban was to protect wild ginseng, but in reality, the exact opposite occurred. The black market and the unscrupulous poachers who support it continued to
dig and sell the wild roots. As everyone knows, all the regulations regarding wild ginseng harvest are impossible to enforce and our border is easy to cross. The growers mostly gave up trying to grow it, since they had no legal market and the status of wild
ginseng in Ontario went from scarce to extinct in many of its historical locations. Ginseng is far worse off in Ontario as a result of this well intentioned, but poorly thought out regulation. It is astonishing to me that regulators seem to think that by passing
a ban, that a ban will actually occur. The only result was to create many new "criminals" who previously were honest people. When people are faced with a regulation that makes no sense and cannot be enforced, it only serves to breed contempt for all regulations.
Here in NY we have had buyers openly advertising in local newspapers that they are buying wild ginseng up to a month before the season opens . A simple perusal of Ebay shows diggers offering freshly dug, wild NY ginseng 3 weeks before the season opens. Numerous
reports of this misbehavior to both state in federal authorities by at least a dozen individuals, whom I know personally, has had no effect. No one has been prosecuted. </span></p>
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on behalf of Connie Kehler [shsa@sasktel.net]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, September 09, 2013 10:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Susan; Jeanine Davis; MoonBranch Botanicals<br>
<b>Cc:</b> mpwg<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MPWG] ginseng in the news</span><span style="COLOR: black"></span></p>
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<p><span style="COLOR: black">On the issue of overharvesting of wild ginseng. </span></p>
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<p><span style="COLOR: black">We in Canada have had an over reaction in Ontario. Many and in my humble opinion most of the wild ginseng in Ontario and much of Quebec has been planted by traditional pickers - not actual wild ginseng. There is also growers
that plant ginseng in the wild and then harvest their own root that they have planted up to 10 years later.
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<p><span style="COLOR: black">The issue is can they prove it is theirs not true wild ginseng. In Quebec wild ginseng growers have documented their plantings and informed the authorities so they can prove ownership. Ontario was not so organized and thus when
the Ontario ministry of natural resourses decided to without consultation make harvesting etc of ginseng illegal - both field planted ginseng and forest planted ginseng became illegal.</span></p>
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<p><span style="COLOR: black">Because Ontario field ginseng growers have an organization - they were able to get an exempt. Wild planted ginseng growers were not so lucky.
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<p><span style="COLOR: black">We have and are working with both growers and governments to get practices in place to ensure that if they plant ginseng in the wild they can still harvest their own roots.
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<p><span style="COLOR: black">We have worked with CITES in Canada on ensuring that decisons about endangered plants are based in fact. Not all wildcrafters rape and pilage. Many are generational pickers that care for the the plants so their grandchildren
still have the resource. Unfortunately they often get clumped in with those who do not take care. </span></p>
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<p><span style="COLOR: black">Often the overharvest of plant are spurged by some overstated overenthusiastic study that takes the highest price of the plant and multiply that with the largest volumes to make it look like a fortune would be made by simply wandering
into the wild and picking plants for free. </span></p>
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<p><span style="COLOR: black">It is important to protect the plants and ensure they are not endangered but we need to do so with thought ...... the facts are important and we must ensure that this is the basis we work from - on all sides.
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<p><span style="COLOR: black">Connie Kehler</span></p>
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On Mon, 9 Sep 2013 00:23:33 -0400 (GMT-04:00), MoonBranch Botanicals <<a href="mailto:moonbranch@earthlink.net" target="_blank">moonbranch@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:</span></p>
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From: Susan <<a href="mailto:susan@unitedplantsavers.org" target="_blank">susan@unitedplantsavers.org</a>>
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Sent: Sep 8, 2013 5:11 PM <br>
To: Jeanine Davis <<a href="mailto:jeanine_davis@ncsu.edu" target="_blank">jeanine_davis@ncsu.edu</a>>
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Cc: mpwg <<a href="mailto:mpwg@lists.plantconservation.org" target="_blank">mpwg@lists.plantconservation.org</a>>
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Subject: Re: [MPWG] ginseng in the news </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black">Yes the time is now to speak up. <br>
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On Sep 8, 2013, at 3:32 PM, Jeanine Davis <<a href="mailto:Jeanine_Davis@ncsu.edu" target="_blank">Jeanine_Davis@ncsu.edu</a>> wrote:</span></p>
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<p><span style="COLOR: black">Oh Randi, how dreadful...and now they want to frack in NC, too. This all makes me so angry. I do think it is time for more of us scientists to speak up.</span></p>
<p><span style="COLOR: black">Jeanine</span></p>
<p><span style="COLOR: black">Jeanine Davis, Associate Professor & Extension Specialist<br>
Dept. of Horticultural Science, NC State University<br>
website: <a href="http://ncherb.org" target="_blank">ncherb.org</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black">On Sep 8, 2013 3:19 PM, "Randi Pokladnik" <<a href="mailto:randi@clover.net" target="_blank">randi@clover.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue">I did my dissertation on poaching in 2008 and it is an issue in Ohio. I am worried now because we have out of state people swarming the area fracking! If the frack pads themselves
and out of state vehicles (carrying invasives back and forth) are not bad enough, we have invasive people so to speak, crossing properties without any thought to privacy issues. We had one lady find dynamite charges set up on her land in Belmont county Ohio...
she was going to build a house and took a walk around, the company claims it was all a big mistake but beware, I see fracking trucks withdrawing water illegally from hidden areas as well as the local MWCD lakes. This is so ridiculous! And then the earth quakes
as well as spent frack fluid being poured out in wooded regions.</span><span style="COLOR: black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'; COLOR: blue">The medicinals seem to be off the radar as far as ODNR is concerned when it comes to getting out that natural gas.</span><span style="COLOR: black"></span></p>
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<b>From:</b> MPWG [mailto:<a href="mailto:mpwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org" target="_blank">mpwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeannie Dunn<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 06, 2013 9:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Colin Donohue<br>
<b>Cc:</b> mpwg<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [MPWG] ginseng in the news</span><span style="COLOR: black"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black">Thanks for all you have just put out there. Agreed.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black">I really believe WNC residential and commercial development and periodic forest service/DOT maintenance probably do more damage to annihilate our herbal medicines in the area, more than poachers ever will.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black">I also think that we will still have ginseng in 10-20 years because the old-timers and their generations who harvest know how to proliferate the species as they harvest, scattering seeds and spreading roots.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="COLOR: black">It will be "wild cultivated" ginseng but it will still be considered wild. I believe Robert Eidus is trying to bring attention to the industry and he has a right to his opinion. I hope he's wrong and we can sustain
our wild ginseng but if more people are moving into western NC and the developments sprawl outwards, we may not have much of a forest to grow it!</span></p>
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That would be great. I regret I'm not in the role I once was, but this issue is still dear to my heart.
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A meeting of the minds, and forging of common strategies and efforts could be a great thing in both stewarding 'sang in the wild and supporting lifeways of the responsible ginseng stewards and harvesters out there.
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