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<DIV>Bob:</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>An excellent description of the problem. I live in a part of the
world where it is OK to "take" anything from a relative without permission but a
horrible crime if they "steal" the same thing from you.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Situation specific semantics....a complete and special chapter in the
Appalachian redneck dictionary.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Russ Richardson</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 9/7/2013 7:53:59 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
rlb14@cornell.edu writes:</DIV>
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<P>Hi All</P>
<P>Poaching is the illegal harvest of a natural resource, whether it is
ginseng, Galax, yellow root, or deer for that matter. The natural resource is
not the property of an individual unless that individual planted it. Stealing
is the deliberate taking of someone else's private property. People who are
growing ginseng on their land are subject to theft, not poaching. I wish
ginseng growers would stop saying that they have been "poached" when in fact
they have been robbed. Poaching evokes an "aw shucks, them rednecks are at it
again" response from many authorities. Grand theft or larceny does not evoke
the same response. Ginseng stewards sometimes poach the plant, but for good
reasons. When regulators decide that September 1 is when ginseng should be
harvested, they are making an arbitrary decision that is based on average
berry ripening dates. No plant pays attention to regulations.
Berries ripen when it is time for them to ripen, not when someone says they
should be ripe. A responsible ginseng steward will harvest when berries are
ripe and replant them. Sometimes this makes him or her a poacher if that date
is August 15th and the season opens September 1. </P>
<P>Preserving the genetic integrity of wild populations is a worthy goal,
but I believe that few, truly wild, populations exist. Michael Mc
Guffin is correct when he says that the influx of "cultivated"
genotypes into forest ecosystems is widespread and it has been that way for
over a century. Some states, such as my own (NY), prohibit the harvest of
seeds from "wild" populations thus making preservation of local gene
pools impossible. NY requires replanting the seed within 50 feet of the
harvested root. Exotic slugs are widespread in NY forests and they
may completely prohibit ginseng regeneration, while allowing mature
plants to survive their predation. Taking seeds from slug infested areas
and replanting them in areas that are not slug infested is illegal. if
there must be a regulation why not it state that "Ginseng may only be
harvested when the berries are red". Is that so hard to comprehend? How to
enforce? Harvesters with ginseng in their pack must also have red berries with
them. No digger could have ripe berries in May or June.</P>
<P>Enforcement of any of the current regulations is almost impossible anyway,
as has been well documented. We cannot post police officers in every Hollow in
Appalachia. The forest ranger in this video made that point. </P>
<P>We need to recognize that ginseng can be an agricultural entity in suitable
forested land, as well as a valued natural resource. When that
happens, the harvest pressure on natural populations on public land will
be reduced. </P>
<P>Bob</P>
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face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Jeanine Davis
[Jeanine_Davis@ncsu.edu]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 06, 2013 3:03
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Robert Layton Beyfuss<BR><B>Cc:</B>
mpwg@lists.plantconservation.org; moonbranch@earthlink.net; Frank T. Adams;
Jessica Bernier; Jeanine Davis<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [MPWG] ginseng in the
news<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P dir=ltr>Bob, there is a difference between most wild harvesters and
poachers. Many wild harvesters try to replant and leave plants for the future.
Poachers are thieves. They steal from public and private land and they are not
concerned about the future. In western NC there is a high influx of outsiders,
often working in groups that are poaching ginseng, galax, ramps and moss.
Poachers are a major reason why wild simulated ginseng growers give up in our
region.</P>
<P dir=ltr>I agree with most else in your letter. Thank you for writing it but
please consider distinguishing between a wild harvester and a poacher.</P>
<P dir=ltr>Jeanine</P>
<P dir=ltr>Jeanine Davis, Associate Professor & Extension
Specialist<BR>Dept. of Horticultural Science, NC State University<BR>website:
<A title=http://ncherb.org/ href="http://ncherb.org/"
target=_blank>ncherb.org</A><BR>Sent from my Droid</P>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sep 6, 2013 1:55 PM, "Robert Layton Beyfuss" <<A
title=mailto:rlb14@cornell.edu href="mailto:rlb14@cornell.edu"
target=_blank>rlb14@cornell.edu</A>> wrote:<BR type="attribution">
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<P>Hi All</P>
<P>I have attached a letter that I am considering sending to CBS about their
"news" story. I don't mean to glorify poachers at all, but there is a
difference between poaching and stealing. </P>
<P>Bob</P>
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<DIV style="DIRECTION: ltr"><FONT color=#000000 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B>
MPWG [<A title=mailto:mpwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org
href="mailto:mpwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org"
target=_blank>mpwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org</A>] on behalf of
MoonBranch Botanicals [<A title=mailto:moonbranch@earthlink.net
href="mailto:moonbranch@earthlink.net"
target=_blank>moonbranch@earthlink.net</A>]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday,
September 06, 2013 12:53 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
title=mailto:mpwg@lists.plantconservation.org
href="mailto:mpwg@lists.plantconservation.org"
target=_blank>mpwg@lists.plantconservation.org</A><BR><B>Cc:</B> Jessica
Bernier; Frank T. Adams<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [MPWG] ginseng in the
news<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal>Where to start… </P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>For sure, as in many contemporary issues, this
“situation” is what happens when a complex and multi-faceted issues meets a
30 second sound/video bite passed off as “news” by the MSM. Unfortunately
(and perhaps striking more closely to “the root” of the problem) a 30 second
allotment meets the expected attention span of most of their viewers, so I
can’t put all the blame on the media I suppose.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>That said, UPS shares a most valid concern with all, or
at least most of us in this community. While plants in general do not elicit
the same “warm and fuzzy” feeling in the so-called environmental community
as do the “charismatic mega-fauna” like the bald eagle or perhaps the timber
wolf, American ginseng is perhaps our best candidate in terms of reaching
“charismatic mega-flora” status. Now if we could just all focus on how best
to use that status to sustain it in the wild.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Once again, I find myself beating on the “policy does not
work” drum. Unfortunately, policy as a management tool is all our
bureaucrats and technocrats understand. The use of force and the threat of
use of force is not only undesirable in terms of effecting long term change,
it is costly, ineffective and unsustainable. Consider for a moment the
failed “war on drugs”, Prohibition, and the illegality of prostitution as a
few prime examples for comparison here. In all cases the negative fallout
from “unintended consequences” were and are far worse than the social ills
that the policies were put in place to remedy. The prevailing prohibition
policy thinking in our society never solves any problems or social ill, it
only serves as a mechanism in forcing them to retreat to the shadowy
recesses of societal fringes where they “metastasize” and get really, really
ugly. Too bad that only treating the symptoms of our problems is the order
of our day.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>I believe Thoreau got it right in this, as he did with
most things, when he stated: “There are a thousand hacking at the branches
of evil to one who is striking at the root.” <B>I for one believe it is high
time to do some root cause analysis here. </B>Is that too much to ask? Or is
it, as an approach, too grounded in logic, common sense, and realism to be
considered? OR, perhaps is there here, as in many areas, another agenda at
play? I have to ask…</P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Perhaps it is simply just too profitable for some of our
“leaders” to resist supplying state, federal, and local governments with tax
dollars for armored personnel carriers, guns, ammo, night vision, GPS units,
body armor, uniforms, and on and on in the name of protecting the Natural
World from us, along with us from each other. Is it, much as in the warning
contained in President Eisenhower’s farewell address regarding a then newly
emerging “military-industrial complex”, that poachers and poaching are just
another point of profit for the state and their corporate minions feeding a
very well documented “prison/judicial industrial complex”? Has “corporatism”
(fascism really) so engulfed the political system of our Nation that policy
is enacted with expectation for profit and not much else? I have to ask as I
see no other reason for the insane continuation of such a short-sighted and
ineffective way to affect change and steer human behavior. </P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>There are many productive ways to address this and many
issues of our time. All of them require the establishment of an open
dialogue and active participation of ALL stakeholders. This is, and will
continue to be the only way to safeguard our future, the future of American
ginseng along with a broader total bio-diversity, and indeed our planet.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>In closing, pragmatism forces me to touch briefly on the
subject of cultivation. By “cultivation” I am referring to the intentional
growing of ginseng (or anything really) in a landscape or scenario greatly
altered to maximize the production of one, or perhaps just a few species.
While I do believe that cultivation in the narrow sense as just stated has
its place, it is not the answer. Consider this on your next visit to the zoo
of your choosing. Is relegating the plants of the world to some carefully
controlled, yet contrived existence really your vision for our future? Of
what is sustainable?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>If not, then let us join forces through a voluntary
marketplace to build value, both economic and abstract, for all life, before
we reach a point where we cannot or perhaps will not be “allowed” to turn
this ship around.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Respectfully submitted for due consideration and with the
most benevolent of intents,</P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Robin</P>
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Message----- <BR>From: Colin Donohue <BR>Sent: Sep 5, 2013 8:28 PM <BR>To:
Jeanine Davis <BR>Cc: mpwg <BR>Subject: Re: [MPWG] ginseng in the news
<BR><BR>
<DIV>Absolutely.<BR><BR>That would be great. I regret I'm not in the role
I once was, but this issue is still dear to my heart. <BR><BR>A meeting of
the minds, and forging of common strategies and efforts could be a great
thing in both stewarding 'sang in the wild and supporting lifeways of the
responsible ginseng stewards and harvesters out there.
<BR><BR>C<BR><BR><BR>On 9/5/2013 8:23 PM, Jeanine Davis wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<P dir=ltr>On an open forum all I am willing to say is that I am not
amused and this story could have been more accurate and hopeful. We do
need to brainstorm on strategies to reduce poaching to conserve wild
populations and encourage more wild simulated production. I have
some ideas, that are built on consumer demand and pressure.</P>
<P dir=ltr>Jeanine</P>
<P dir=ltr>Jeanine Davis, Associate Professor & Extension
Specialist<BR>Dept. of Horticultural Science, NC State
University<BR>website: <A title=http://ncherb.org/
href="http://ncherb.org/" target=_blank>ncherb.org</A><BR>Sent from my
Droid</P>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sep 5, 2013 7:46 PM, "Michael McGuffin" <<A
title=mailto:MMcguffin@ahpa.org href="mailto:MMcguffin@ahpa.org"
target=_blank>MMcguffin@ahpa.org</A>> wrote:<BR type="attribution">
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style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext">I
could not agree with you more that the information presented by Robert
Eidus was unfortunate, at best. </SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black size=4
face=Calibri><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; COLOR: windowtext">But
Susan Leopold was exactly correct in calling attention to the very
limited resources that are applied to plant conservation. This was an
important message, and an appropriate message from United Plant
Savers.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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MPWG [mailto:<A title=mailto:mpwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org
href="mailto:mpwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org"
target=_blank>mpwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org</A>] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Colin
Donohue<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:02 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Susan Leopold<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> mpwg<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [MPWG] ginseng in
the news</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">This is great,
other than being wrong. <BR><BR>I'm amused to see Robert Eidus as the
spokesperson for the survivability of Ginseng. It will be gone in
10-20 years? That's idiotic. <BR><BR>I'm sure Mr.
Eidus didn't mean what he was cast as saying on the clip, but it's
still incorrect information. <BR><BR><BR>I'm very disappointed to see
UPS trumpeting this incorrect and sensationalized clip. <BR><BR>Yes,
there are issues with ginseng harvest, and I'd be the first to shout
from the mountaintop that poaching is a real issue that needs
attention, and that more resources should go into plant conservation.
But putting incorrect information out to spur public concern is
disingenuous. <BR><BR>Colin<BR><BR>On 9/5/2013 5:15 PM, Susan Leopold
wrote:</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">United Plant
Savers has started a <A title=http://change.org/
href="http://change.org/" target=_blank>change.org</A> letter to
bring awareness to our members and the public and to show various
agencies that the public cares and supports ginseng conservation
efforts....</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=3
face="Times New Roman"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Below is a link
to the CBS story and to our <A title=http://change.org/
href="http://change.org/" target=_blank>change.org</A> letter, also
you can go to the UpS website <A
title=http://www.unitedplantsavers.org/
href="http://www.unitedplantsavers.org/"
target=_blank>www.unitedplantsavers.org</A> for links to several
recent news articles and ginseng recently published
research.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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this campaign: <A title=http://chn.ge/15Eon5H
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title=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505269_162-57601454/ginseng-poaching-threatens-survival-of-plant-species/
href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505269_162-57601454/ginseng-poaching-threatens-survival-of-plant-species/"
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=black size=4 face=Helvetica><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'">Executive
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<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><PRE>Robin Alton Suggs
MoonBranch Botanicals
5294 Yellow Creek Road
Robbinsville, North Carolina 28771
USA
Telephone: <A title=tel:828.479.2788 href="tel:828.479.2788" target=_blank value="+18284792788">828.479.2788</A>
Email: <A title=mailto:moonbranch@earthlink.net href="mailto:moonbranch@earthlink.net" target=_blank>moonbranch@earthlink.net</A>
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Member:
Appalachian Sustainable Agriculture Project; Farm Partner
Green Products Alliance
North Carolina Consortium on Natural Medicines
North Carolina Goodness Grows/NCDA&CS
United Plant Savers
There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root. - Henry David Thoreau
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