<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Colin and Jeanine,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for all you have just put out there. Agreed.<div>I really believe WNC residential and commercial development and periodic forest service/DOT maintenance probably do more damage to annihilate our herbal medicines in the area, more than poachers ever will.</div><div>I also think that we will still have ginseng in 10-20 years because the old-timers and their generations who harvest know how to proliferate the species as they harvest, scattering seeds and spreading roots.</div><div>It will be "wild cultivated" ginseng but it will still be considered wild. I believe Robert Eidus is trying to bring attention to the industry and he has a right to his opinion. I hope he's wrong and we can sustain our wild ginseng but if more people are moving into western NC and the developments sprawl outwards, we may not have much of a forest to grow it!</div><div><br></div><div>Jeannie Dunn</div><div><div>Red Moon Herbs</div><div>828-301-3010</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>On Sep 5, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Colin Donohue wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Absolutely.<br> <br> That would be great. I regret I'm not in the role I once was, but this issue is still dear to my heart. <br> <br> A meeting of the minds, and forging of common strategies and efforts could be a great thing in both stewarding 'sang in the wild and supporting lifeways of the responsible ginseng stewards and harvesters out there. <br> <br> C<br> <br> <br> On 9/5/2013 8:23 PM, Jeanine Davis wrote:<br> </div> <blockquote cite="mid:CANoiWQjxR8p+g0D6HhR3DZF5n1y4FKd72+8xb-AFLU9RtQGHYw@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"><p dir="ltr">On an open forum all I am willing to say is that I am not amused and this story could have been more accurate and hopeful. We do need to brainstorm on strategies to reduce poaching to conserve wild populations and encourage more wild simulated production. I have some ideas, that are built on consumer demand and pressure.</p><p dir="ltr">Jeanine</p><p dir="ltr">Jeanine Davis, Associate Professor & Extension Specialist<br> Dept. of Horticultural Science, NC State University<br> website: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://ncherb.org">ncherb.org</a><br> Sent from my Droid</p> <div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 5, 2013 7:46 PM, "Michael McGuffin" <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:MMcguffin@ahpa.org">MMcguffin@ahpa.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> <div bgcolor="white" link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="4" color="black"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">Hello Colin, </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri" size="4" color="black"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">I could not agree with you more that the information presented by Robert Eidus was unfortunate, at best. </span></font><font face="Calibri" size="4" color="black"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">But Susan Leopold was exactly correct in calling attention to the very limited resources that are applied to plant conservation. 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</span></font></b><b><font face="Eras Medium ITC" color="#4f6228"><span style="font-family:"Eras Medium ITC","sans-serif";color:#4f6228;font-weight:bold"></span></font></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Maiandra GD" size="4" color="black"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Maiandra GD","sans-serif";color:windowtext"><span><mime-attachment.jpeg></span></span></font><b><i><font face="Calibri" color="black"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic"></span></font></i></b></p> </div><div><font face="Calibri" size="4" color="black"><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> </span></font><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" color="black"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" color="black"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> MPWG [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mpwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org" target="_blank">mpwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Colin Donohue<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:02 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Susan Leopold<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> mpwg<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [MPWG] ginseng in the news</span></font></p> </div> </div><div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="black"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="black"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">This is great, other than being wrong. <br> <br> I'm amused to see Robert Eidus as the spokesperson for the survivability of Ginseng. It will be gone in 10-20 years? That's idiotic. <br> <br> I'm sure Mr. Eidus didn't mean what he was cast as saying on the clip, but it's still incorrect information. <br> <br> <br> I'm very disappointed to see UPS trumpeting this incorrect and sensationalized clip. <br> <br> Yes, there are issues with ginseng harvest, and I'd be the first to shout from the mountaintop that poaching is a real issue that needs attention, and that more resources should go into plant conservation. But putting incorrect information out to spur public concern is disingenuous. <br> <br> Colin<br> <br> On 9/5/2013 5:15 PM, Susan Leopold wrote:</span></font></p> </div> <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="black"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">United Plant Savers has started a <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://change.org" target="_blank">change.org</a> letter to bring awareness to our members and the public and to show various agencies that the public cares and supports ginseng conservation efforts....</span></font></p> </div> <div><div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="black"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="black"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Below is a link to the CBS story and to our <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://change.org" target="_blank">change.org</a> letter, also you can go to the UpS website <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.unitedplantsavers.org" target="_blank">www.unitedplantsavers.org</a> for links to several recent news articles and ginseng recently published research.</span></font></p> </div> <div><div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="black"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div> </div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="black"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Please join this campaign: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://chn.ge/15Eon5H" target="_blank">http://chn.ge/15Eon5H</a></span></font></p> </div> <div><div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="black"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div> </div> <div><div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="black"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div> </div> <div><div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="black"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div> </div><p class="MsoNormal"><span><font face="Calibri" size="3" color="blue"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:blue"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505269_162-57601454/ginseng-poaching-threatens-survival-of-plant-species/" target="_blank">http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505269_162-57601454/ginseng-poaching-threatens-survival-of-plant-species/</a></span></font></span><span> </span></p> <div><div><font face="Times New Roman" size="3" color="black"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div> <div> <div> <div> <div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Helvetica" size="4" color="black"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Susan Leopold, PhD</span></font></p> 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