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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I agree that funding for plant
conservation is critical, and support advocacy for it. I agree
with the elements in the petition (at least from quick scan). <br>
<br>
I just think it's a disservice to share inaccurate information. <br>
<br>
Some preface would be responsible (EG the issues around ginseng
conservation are complex. Ginseng will still be in the US forests
in 10 or 20 years, but there are concerns about its long term
survival, yada yada yada). <br>
<br>
It's great to get the coverage, and Susan came across well, and
on-point. I don't know who let Eidus in front of the camera. A
lesson to us all in "message control" lol. <br>
<br>
Sharing the clip with its proclamation about ginseng's imminent
extinction is not OK, IMO. It undermines the credibility of the
whole undertaking. <br>
<br>
It also casts harvesters as the mortal enemy. We must protect all
the woods from these evil folks (whereas those "boots on the
ground" are likely the biggest potential steward for ginseng if
engaged properly. <br>
<br>
Sure, lock the thieves up, but most harvesters I know are not
thieves. Many actually husband the local genetic pool by taking
plants off public land to "protect" them, and dispersing seeds
from their private gardens. <br>
<br>
Anywho, enough said. I think we agree that thieves are bad and
agencies need to help catch them. Ginseng will not be extinct in
10-20 years, Susan did a great job stumping for UPS and plant
conservation funding generally (especially in light of NFWF cuts),
and what you propose in petition is generally good stuff!<br>
<br>
Just don't spread the rumor that ginseng will be extirpated in 10
years ;-) <br>
<br>
C<br>
<br>
<br>
On 9/5/2013 7:45 PM, Michael McGuffin wrote:<br>
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style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of
</span></b>Colin Donohue<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:02 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Susan
Leopold<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> mpwg<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [MPWG] ginseng in the news<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Times
New Roman"">This is great, other than being wrong.
<br>
<br>
I'm amused to see Robert Eidus as the spokesperson for
the survivability of Ginseng. It will be gone in 10-20
years? That's idiotic.
<br>
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I'm sure Mr. Eidus didn't mean what he was cast as
saying on the clip, but it's still incorrect
information.
<br>
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I'm very disappointed to see UPS trumpeting this
incorrect and sensationalized clip.
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Yes, there are issues with ginseng harvest, and I'd be
the first to shout from the mountaintop that poaching is
a real issue that needs attention, and that more
resources should go into plant conservation. But putting
incorrect information out to spur public concern is
disingenuous. <br>
<br>
Colin<br>
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On 9/5/2013 5:15 PM, Susan Leopold wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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letter to bring awareness to our members and the
public and to show various agencies that the public
cares and supports ginseng conservation efforts....<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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letter, also you can go to the UpS website
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