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On 10-10-25 08:33 AM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Patricia_DeAngelis@fws.gov">Patricia_DeAngelis@fws.gov</a> wrote:
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<font face="sans-serif" size="2">CFIA is the Canadian Food Inspection
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<font face="sans-serif" size="2">This is an interesting topic and
worth
taking an impartial look. However, I can't seem to find the actual
documents
published by the Canadian government. I'm hoping the actual documents
will
provide details such as, </font>
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<li><font face="sans-serif" size="2">What criteria are used to
decide if
a species is invasive? </font></li>
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I have asked CFIA for information about that. I do know there is a
binational committee of experts that has been for the past three years
reviewing plants for this list. One of the things I asked for is a list
of species that were considered and rejected; but I have no word yet if
such a thing exists. <br>
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<li><font face="sans-serif" size="2">Is this retroactive or does it
commence
with imports after a certain date?</font>
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Not retroactive. The expectation is that this policy will be
implemented next year with an as yet undefined transition period. <br>
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<li><font face="sans-serif" size="2">I'm really surprised to see in
the Proposed
Authorized Plant List by Genus, that they have columns for how the
plants
must be sourced (i.e., greenhouse grown and propagated from seed or
tissue
culture), apparently in order to be acceptable. I don't get that at
all.
Is this about regulating invasive plants or is this an implication that
there is some sort of pathogen on the material if not cultivated?</font></li>
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This is not just about invasive plants, though invasives are a big part
of it. It is also -- perhaps more so -- about pests and diseases that
might be on plants. <br>
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<li><font face="sans-serif" size="2"> </font><br>
</li>
<li><font face="sans-serif" size="2">How will they rectify
non-native vs.
native species?</font></li>
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Ethnicity is immaterial. <br>
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<font face="sans-serif" size="2">Definitely worth taking a closer
look.
If anyone comes across any offical links from the Canadian government's
website, please forward to the list. </font>
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<br>
<font face="sans-serif" size="2">I know the USDA was working on
similar
legislation for nursery stock. Not really sure what's going on with
that
endeavor. Does anyone on the list know?</font>
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This is not just Canadian! This is joint U.S. and Canadian policy.
There is a parallel consultation underway on the U.S. side.<br>
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<font face="sans-serif" size="2">I'm cc'g to the Alien Plant Working
Group listserve as well. </font>
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<font face="sans-serif" size="2"><br>
Thank you,</font>
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<font face="sans-serif" size="2">Patricia</font>
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<font face="sans-serif" size="2">Patricia S. De Angelis, Ph.D.<br>
Botanist - Division of Scientific Authority<br>
Chair - Plant Conservation Alliance - Medicinal Plant Working Group<br>
US Fish & Wildlife Service<br>
4401 N. Fairfax Dr., Suite 110<br>
Arlington, VA 22203<br>
703-358-1708 x1753<br>
FAX: 703-358-2276<br>
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Promoting sustainable use and conservation of our native medicinal
plants.<br>
<<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.nps.gov/plants/medicinal">www.nps.gov/plants/medicinal</a>><br>
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<p><font face="sans-serif" size="1">10/25/2010 04:56 AM</font>
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<font size="3">Does anyone know what dept of CFIA this is?<br>
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C. Kehler</font>
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On 2010-10-24, at 7:08 PM, Robert Layton Beyfuss <</font><a
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color="blue" size="3"><u>rlb14@cornell.edu</u></font></a><font size="3">>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2">Hi All</font>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2">According to </font><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.physorg.com/news204438872.html"><font
color="blue" face="Tahoma" size="2"><u>http://www.physorg.com/news204438872.html</u></font></a><font
face="Tahoma" size="2">
there are over 400,000 named flowering plant species worldwide,
according
to </font><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.invasive.org/"><font
color="blue" face="Tahoma" size="2"><u>http://www.invasive.org/</u></font></a><font
face="Tahoma" size="2">
there are 218 invasive plant species in the US. So, the roughly 399,800
non invasive plants should be listed and must be checked before someone
can bring it one in or out? A wonderful and efficient use of our
resources.
The customs and border patrols must be thrilled by this.</font>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2">This is insane.</font>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2">Bob</font>
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<hr><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> </font><a
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href="mailto:mpwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org"><font
color="blue" face="Tahoma" size="2"><u>mpwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org</u></font></a><font
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mpwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org">mpwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org</a>] On Behalf Of MoonBranch
Botanicals
[<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:moonbranch@earthlink.net">moonbranch@earthlink.net</a>]<b><br>
Sent:</b> Sunday, October 24, 2010 1:01 PM<b><br>
To:</b> Conrad Richter; </font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mpwg@lists.plantconservation.org"><font color="blue"
face="Tahoma" size="2"><u>mpwg@lists.plantconservation.org</u></font></a><font
face="Tahoma" size="2"><b><br>
Subject:</b> Re: [MPWG] Fwd:<br>
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<br>
<font face="Tahoma" size="2">While I understand the concern regarding
the introduction of new problem plants, this approach seems a bit
bizarre.
More puzzling is the attention paid to this issue regarding the
movement
of living things across geopolitical (meaningless from the standpoint
of
the natural world) boundaries, while these same governments pay little
attention to the equivalent biological "weapons of mass destruction"
like the introduction of GE salmon and other genetically modified
organisms
into our biosphere.<br>
<br>
These governments seem far more interested in the bottom line of
multinational
corporations than the common good. We see this agenda played out daily
in policies that are enacted and that while sounding beneficial, often
upon deeper investigation we see that they play into the financial
goals
and bottom line of these same corporations.<br>
<br>
It is not my intent here to place blame or to paint all of those vested
with the authority of overseeing our interests with the same broad
brush.
However we must remember that these same entities were often the very
ones
responsible for the introduction of many of our greatest plant pests
today
such as kudzu and multiflora rose. The bottom line here is that
agencies
are staffed by people and people make mistakes.<br>
<br>
Once again, I believe the focus of those charged with protecting our
interests
should go after real and imminent threats instead of potential or even
imaginary ones. USDA, FDA, and the EPA should be looking at those
organisms
that have no track record outside the laboratory and as such have to
potential
to unleash unimaginable consequences.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Robin A. Suggs<br>
<br>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2">-----Original Message----- <br>
From: Conrad Richter <br>
Sent: Oct 24, 2010 3:53 AM <br>
To: </font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<br>
Subject: [MPWG] Fwd: <br>
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<b><br>
"WHITE LIST" OF AUTHORIZED PLANTS (Canada and U.S.)</b> </font>
<p><font face="Tahoma" size="2">The U.S. and Canadian governments are
planning
to introduce a "white list" of plants that are allowed entry
into each country under a joint Canada-USA greenhouse certification
program.
The United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) and the Canadian
Food
Inspection Agency (CFIA) are requesting comments from stakeholders on a
proposal to replace the current list of prohibited plants with this new
list of allowed plants. What this means is that if a plant is not on
the
allowed list it cannot enter the U.S. from Canada or vice versa. Many
thousands
of plants including many herbs will be barred entry under the proposal.</font>
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<p><font face="Tahoma" size="2">This change is highly significant for
both
countries because it appears to be a first attempt to implement a
controversal
"white list" approach to the control of cross-border plant movement.
The proposed "white list" is far more restrictive than the current
"black list" of prohibited plants that has been in place since
the inception of the binational Greenhouse Certification Program in
1996.
The proposed "white list" of allowed plants includes less than
1000 plant genera, out of over 12,600 genera of flowering plants known
to man. The current "black list" of prohibited plants has fewer
than 100 genera.</font>
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<p><font face="Tahoma" size="2">Some suggest that the powerful
anti-invasives
movement in the U.S. is behind the push to introduce "white lists"
of plants that are allowed into the country. While invasives are a
problem
for both countries, the new list will affect thousands of plants
already
in the horticultural trade, and will limit the introduction of new
plants
to gardeners.</font>
</p>
<p><font face="Tahoma" size="2">For gardeners, it is worth reflecting
a moment
on how many new plants that you have enjoyed growing over the past
10-20
years, and how many of them might not have been available to you had
this
"white list" been in place.</font>
</p>
<p><font face="Tahoma" size="2">Gardeners, herbalists, commercial
growers,
and the gardening and herbal media are encouraged to submit comments.</font>
</p>
<p><font color="#cc0033" face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>The deadline for
comments
is October 31, 2010.</b></font>
</p>
<p><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>United States</b>: Email your
comments
to Michael D. Ward, Senior Accreditation Projects Manager,
USDA-APHIS-PPQ
(</font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:michael.d.ward@aphis.usda.gov"><font color="blue"
face="Tahoma" size="2"><u>michael.d.ward@aphis.usda.gov</u></font></a><font
face="Tahoma" size="2">)</font>
</p>
<p><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>Canada</b>: Email your comments to
the
CFIA (</font><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:horticulture@inspection.gc.ca"><font color="blue"
face="Tahoma" size="2"><u>horticulture@inspection.gc.ca</u></font></a><font
face="Tahoma" size="2">)</font>
</p>
<p><font face="Tahoma" size="2">The relevant documents, including the
proposed
lists of authorized genera and families, are available </font><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.richters.com/newdisplay.cgi?page=Issues/documents.html"
target="_blank"><font color="blue" face="Tahoma" size="2"><u>here</u></font></a><font
face="Tahoma" size="2">.</font>
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2">Robin Alton Suggs<br>
MoonBranch Botanicals<br>
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Member:<br>
Appalachian Sustainable Agriculture Project; Farm Partner<br>
Green Products Alliance <br>
North Carolina Consortium on Natural Medicines <br>
North Carolina Goodness Grows/NCDA&CS <br>
Southwestern North Carolina RC&D Council<br>
United Plant Savers<br>
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the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it" <br>
- Matthew 7:13 </font>
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