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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 13:01:43 -0400 (GMT-04:00)<br>
From: MoonBranch Botanicals <<a href="mailto:moonbranch@earthlink.net">moonbranch@earthlink.net</a>><br>
To: Conrad Richter <<a href="mailto:conrad@richters.com">conrad@richters.com</a>>,<br>
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 13:30:33 -0400<br>
From: "Terressentials" <<a href="mailto:terressentials@mailworks.org">terressentials@mailworks.org</a>><br>
To: "MoonBranch Botanicals" <<a href="mailto:moonbranch@earthlink.net">moonbranch@earthlink.net</a>>, "Conrad<br>
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Excellent points, Robin!<br>
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Thank you for speaking out and articulating our concerns.<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Diana Kaye<br>
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From: "MoonBranch Botanicals" <<a href="mailto:moonbranch@earthlink.net">moonbranch@earthlink.net</a>><br>
To: "Conrad Richter" <<a href="mailto:conrad@richters.com">conrad@richters.com</a>>,<br>
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 12:47:04 -0500<br>
From: Gena Fleming <<a href="mailto:genafleming@gmail.com">genafleming@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: MoonBranch Botanicals <<a href="mailto:moonbranch@earthlink.net">moonbranch@earthlink.net</a>><br>
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I agree with Robin wholeheartedly. This is an extremely dangerous and<br>
ill-advised precedent. It is quite presumptuous to put regulatory agencies<br>
in charge of white-listing living organisms allowed in the country. I'm<br>
sure, in the current frame of mind, many medicinal plants would not make the<br>
list.<br>
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Many of the problems associated with invasives occurred because these plants<br>
or other organisms were strategically and massively introduced for erosion<br>
control or biocontrol by government agencies, not because they were grown as<br>
crops or by gardeners.,. Are we going to put these same agencies in charge<br>
of "white-listing" life?<br>
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And here's something else to consider. The "regulation" of genetically<br>
altered plants is actually a path of De-regulation. Ultimately, the<br>
corporations behind the patented, genetically engineered plants petition for<br>
NON-regulated status by APHIS. (For a current list of genetically enginered<br>
non-regulated plants or those that are pending noregulated status see<br>
<a href="http://www.aphis.usda.gov/biotechnology/not_reg.html" target="_blank">http://www.aphis.usda.gov/biotechnology/not_reg.html</a> ). That means they<br>
can no longer be regulated. Already, genetically engineered eucalyptus is<br>
petitioning for non-regulated status. Eventually, this list may include<br>
other genetically engineered forest trees as well plants such as corn<br>
engineered to grow human insulin or other pharmaceuticals.<br>
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Does attainment of non-regulation mean they are automatically<br>
white-listed?<br>
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Let's look down the road.<br>
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best regards,<br>
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Gena Fleming<br>
Jade Fountain Healthcare<br>
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On 24 October 2010 12:01, MoonBranch Botanicals <<a href="mailto:moonbranch@earthlink.net">moonbranch@earthlink.net</a>>wrote:<br>
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> While I understand the concern regarding the introduction of new problem<br>
> plants, this approach seems a bit bizarre. More puzzling is the attention<br>
> paid to this issue regarding the movement of living things across<br>
> geopolitical (meaningless from the standpoint of the natural world)<br>
> boundaries, while these same governments pay little attention to the<br>
> equivalent biological "weapons of mass destruction" like the introduction of<br>
> GE salmon and other genetically modified organisms into our biosphere.<br>
><br>
> These governments seem far more interested in the bottom line of<br>
> multinational corporations than the common good. We see this agenda played<br>
> out daily in policies that are enacted and that while sounding beneficial,<br>
> often upon deeper investigation we see that they play into the financial<br>
> goals and bottom line of these same corporations.<br>
><br>
> It is not my intent here to place blame or to paint all of those vested<br>
> with the authority of overseeing our interests with the same broad brush.<br>
> However we must remember that these same entities were often the very ones<br>
> responsible for the introduction of many of our greatest plant pests today<br>
> such as kudzu and multiflora rose. The bottom line here is that agencies are<br>
> staffed by people and people make mistakes.<br>
><br>
> Once again, I believe the focus of those charged with protecting our<br>
> interests should go after real and imminent threats instead of potential or<br>
> even imaginary ones. USDA, FDA, and the EPA should be looking at those<br>
> organisms that have no track record outside the laboratory and as such have<br>
> to potential to unleash unimaginable consequences.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> Robin A. Suggs<br>
><br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Conrad Richter<br>
> Sent: Oct 24, 2010 3:53 AM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:mpwg@lists.plantconservation.org">mpwg@lists.plantconservation.org</a><br>
> Subject: [MPWG] Fwd:<br>
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> *"WHITE LIST" OF AUTHORIZED PLANTS (Canada and U.S.)*<br>
><br>
> The U.S. and Canadian governments are planning to introduce a "white list"<br>
> of plants that are allowed entry into each country under a joint Canada-USA<br>
> greenhouse certification program. The United States Department of<br>
> Agriculture (USDA) and the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) are<br>
> requesting comments from stakeholders on a proposal to replace the current<br>
> list of prohibited plants with this new list of allowed plants. What this<br>
> means is that if a plant is not on the allowed list it cannot enter the U.S.<br>
> from Canada or vice versa. Many thousands of plants including many herbs<br>
> will be barred entry under the proposal.<br>
><br>
> This change is highly significant for both countries because it appears to<br>
> be a first attempt to implement a controversal "white list" approach to the<br>
> control of cross-border plant movement. The proposed "white list" is far<br>
> more restrictive than the current "black list" of prohibited plants that has<br>
> been in place since the inception of the binational Greenhouse Certification<br>
> Program in 1996. The proposed "white list" of allowed plants includes less<br>
> than 1000 plant genera, out of over 12,600 genera of flowering plants known<br>
> to man. The current "black list" of prohibited plants has fewer than 100<br>
> genera.<br>
><br>
> Some suggest that the powerful anti-invasives movement in the U.S. is<br>
> behind the push to introduce "white lists" of plants that are allowed into<br>
> the country. While invasives are a problem for both countries, the new list<br>
> will affect thousands of plants already in the horticultural trade, and will<br>
> limit the introduction of new plants to gardeners.<br>
><br>
> For gardeners, it is worth reflecting a moment on how many new plants that<br>
> you have enjoyed growing over the past 10-20 years, and how many of them<br>
> might not have been available to you had this "white list" been in place.<br>
><br>
> Gardeners, herbalists, commercial growers, and the gardening and herbal<br>
> media are encouraged to submit comments.<br>
><br>
> *The deadline for comments is October 31, 2010.*<br>
><br>
> *United States*: Email your comments to Michael D. Ward, Senior<br>
> Accreditation Projects Manager, USDA-APHIS-PPQ (<br>
> <a href="mailto:michael.d.ward@aphis.usda.gov">michael.d.ward@aphis.usda.gov</a>)<<a href="http://michael.d.ward@aphis.usda.gov?Subject=GCP%20Comments" target="_blank">michael.d.ward@aphis.usda.gov?Subject=GCP%20Comments</a>><br>
><br>
> *Canada*: Email your comments to the CFIA (<a href="mailto:horticulture@inspection.gc.ca">horticulture@inspection.gc.ca</a><<a href="http://horticulture@inspection.gc.ca?Subject=comments" target="_blank">horticulture@inspection.gc.ca?Subject=comments</a>><br>
> )<br>
><br>
> The relevant documents, including the proposed lists of authorized genera<br>
> and families, are available here<<a href="http://www.richters.com/newdisplay.cgi?page=Issues/documents.html" target="_blank">http://www.richters.com/newdisplay.cgi?page=Issues/documents.html</a>><br>
> .<br>
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> Robin Alton Suggs<br>
> MoonBranch Botanicals<br>
> 5294 Yellow Creek Road<br>
> Robbinsville, North Carolina 28771<br>
> USA<br>
><br>
> Telephone: 828.479.2788<br>
> Email: <a href="mailto:moonbranch@earthlink.net">moonbranch@earthlink.net</a><br>
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> Member:<br>
> Appalachian Sustainable Agriculture Project; Farm Partner<br>
> Green Products Alliance<br>
> North Carolina Consortium on Natural Medicines<br>
> North Carolina Goodness Grows/NCDA&CS<br>
> Southwestern North Carolina RC&D Council<br>
> United Plant Savers<br>
><br>
> "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it"<br>
> - Matthew 7:13<br>
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