Well said, Diana. I appreciate Isla's concern. "Aphrodisiac" can be a popular hook that in the end, helps put herbs,
in many reasonable people's minds, on that shelf labeled "quackery."
But clinically they can be as much a godsend as remedies for any other
illnesses.<br><br>Thank you. <br><br>-- <br>Beth Judy<br><a href="http://www.floradelaterre.com">www.floradelaterre.com</a><br>406-728-2977<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Terressentials <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:terressentials@mailworks.org">terressentials@mailworks.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi, Isla.<br>
<br>
Am I interpreting your email correctly to understand that you believe<br>
that we should not use this forum to discuss herbals that have the<br>
potential to stimulate sexual desire? If this is not your opinion, then<br>
please excuse my misunderstanding and disregard this email.<br>
<br>
However, if this is your opinion then, with all due respect, I beg to<br>
disagree. While I do agree with your premise that sexual desire<br>
involves not just physical health and well-being, but also how a partner<br>
in the relationship is being treated and respected, at times there is an<br>
underlying physiological imbalance that an "aphrodisiac" might be able<br>
to correct. Sexual desire, along with the ability to enjoy sex and<br>
experience sexual fulfillment are normal physiological functions, and I<br>
believe that healers should be able to use all available methods to help<br>
their patients achieve full and normal functioning of their bodies so<br>
that the individual can have balance -- good health and peace of mind.<br>
<br>
Over the years, I have heard from many women of a wide range of ages --<br>
30's, 40', 50' and up -- who suffer from endocrine malfunction with<br>
decreased energy and libido. Many are depressed because of their lack<br>
of energy and because they have little or no sexual desire. If there is<br>
real endocrine dysfunction and not just a situational or behavioral<br>
problem, then adjustment of diet -- foods and herbs -- should be<br>
investigated. If there are herbs that are being safely used to help<br>
women (or men) with this condition then I, for one, would welcome<br>
learning more about them.<br>
<br>
I would like to say, however, that I am not speaking of using herbals<br>
for ego-boosting, vanity or purely recreational purposes, I am speaking<br>
of herbals as treatments for legitimate clinical diagnoses of endocrine<br>
malfunction or problematic menopause issues.<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
<br>
Diana Kaye<br>
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From: "Isla Burgess" <<a href="mailto:isla@herbcollege.com">isla@herbcollege.com</a>><br>
To: "'pankaj oudhia'" <<a href="mailto:pankajoudhia@yahoo.com">pankajoudhia@yahoo.com</a>>,<br>
<a href="mailto:mpwg@lists.plantconservation.org">mpwg@lists.plantconservation.org</a><br>
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 19:50:36 +1300<br>
Subject: Re: [MPWG] Can't say whether size matters or not, but<br>
knowledge matters<br>
<br>
Nga Mihi to all,<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
As a medical herbalist with a clinical practice spanning 30 years I find<br>
myself 'reacting' to the idea of a plant or drug being used as an<br>
'Aphrodisiac'.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
The need for such a plant (or drug) is many layered and multifaceted.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
It involves not just physical health and wellbeing but how a partner in<br>
a relationship is being treated and respected.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I am not sure that this Discussion Group is a vehicle for this type of<br>
discussion.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Ka kite,<br>
<br>
IslA<br>
<br>
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<br>
Isla Burgess<br>
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Director<br>
<br>
International College of Herbal Medicine<br>
<br>
18B Sirrah St<br>
<br>
Wainui, Gisborne, New Zealand<br>
#6468630048<br>
<br>
#6468630046 Fax<br>
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<br>
isla@HerbCollege.com<br>
<br>
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<a href="mailto:bounces@lists.plantconservation.org">bounces@lists.plantconservation.org</a>] On Behalf Of pankaj oudhia Sent:<br>
Sunday, 1 November 2009 6:40 p.m. To:<br>
<a href="mailto:mpwg@lists.plantconservation.org">mpwg@lists.plantconservation.org</a> Subject: [MPWG] Can't say whether<br>
size matters or not, but knowledge matters<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Dear Group Members,<br>
<br>
The new documents in series titled "Excerpts from my field diary<br>
(July 2009 onwards)" are now online. Please visit these links.<br>
<br>
Art of using Aphrodisiac<br>
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Traditional Agricultural Knowledge, Dhekna Booti and Pest Management<br>
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Updated versions of old research documents<br>
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<a href="http://www.pankajoudhia.com/newwork12.html" target="_blank">http://www.pankajoudhia.com/newwork12.html</a><br>
<br>
Keep talking and let me guess the herbs you are taking<br>
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<br>
<a href="http://www.pankajoudhia.com/newwork13.html" target="_blank">http://www.pankajoudhia.com/newwork13.html</a><br>
<br>
Let's form task force under leadership of Dr. M. Mahadevappa and<br>
experts like him<br>
<br>
Can't say whether size matters or not, but knowledge matters<br>
<br>
Reap actual benefit from tree plantations: Example of Gardi<br>
<br>
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