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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Seems to me that one good solution would
be to have a certification program <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>that uses 3<sup>rd</sup> party verifiers
to certify that a company’s products are sustainably grown or harvested.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Kind of like the Forest Stewardship
Council or other certifications.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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mpwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org
[mailto:mpwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>cafesombra@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 03, 2008
12:46 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
MPWG@lists.plantconservation.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [MPWG] Saving Plants
That Save Lives</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face=Arial><span style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Hello,<br>
"Unsustainable collection practices" (which we've been blaming for
years now) may be threatening / endangering plants. But what causes
unsustainable collection? Why are people pulling too many plants out of
the wild without implementing appropriate replanting and/or protection
measures? Could it be that unsustainable contracting for commercial
ingredients is the culprit? Business people, especially the big users (I
would say "players," if creating a sustainable future were a <i><span
style='font-style:italic'>game</span></i>) can point the finger at collectors
'til the cowslip comes home. But business people are the ones paying the
collectors. Now that distribution and product placement make it difficult
if not impossible for all but the bigger players to get into the commerce game,
we can no longer say that consumers demand it so, let's supply what the people
want. Consumers wander down the aisles choosing from amongst what is
there, and if one product disappears and another replaces it, they still choose
from what's there. They still tend to choose what is placed right in
front of their faces, as all informed business people know. Imagine a
world where no one can find any non-organic products except by shunning the
stores and going to their local chemical factory farms to support the local
underdogs. It's not going to do your company any good to "give the people
what they want" if the environment is ruined and the source runs out in
the process -- unless you are in it for the quick return rather than the long haul.<br>
I may be preaching to the choir, assuming that signing up for an email list
affirms one's commitment to a sustainable future. So, if everyone on this
list is already perfect, how do we reach those who do not voluntarily choose to
do the right thing? Because that is what we need to do. It's a
crime that saving the plants that save lives is a voluntary act, if you think
you might want to, and allowing unrestricted trade of unsustainable ingredients
is protected by law.<br>
Jennifer www.herbalistswithoutborders.org </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>-----Original
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From: Olivia Kwong <plant@plantconservation.org><br>
To: <st1:PersonName w:st="on">mpwg@lists.plantconservation.org</st1:PersonName><br>
Sent: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 10:53 am<br>
Subject: [MPWG] NEWS: Saving Plants That Save Lives<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Saving Plants That Save Lives</span></font></tt><font
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>ScienceDaily (Jan. 1, 2008) - Poor or non-existent collection controls are </span></font></tt><font
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>threatening the survival of many of the plant species used in traditional </span></font></tt><font
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>and modern medicines. Some estimates indicate that 15,000 of the 50,000 - </span></font></tt><font
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style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>70,000 plant species used for medicinal purposes and mostly collected from </span></font></tt><font
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