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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=red face="Bookman Old Style"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:red'>Greetings:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:red'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=red face="Bookman Old Style"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:red'>Ecological
cultivation……what do we mean by this?<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Sure,
as Jeanne has done, we can point to certifiable forms of eco-horticulture
(i.e., biodynamic, organic, biological-agriculture, etc.).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=red face="Bookman Old Style"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:red'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=red face="Bookman Old Style"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:red'>I submit to
you that other, less neatly definable, forms of “ecological” cultivation
continue to occur under the radar and these are being questioned in the very name
of “medicinal plant conservation.”<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Take
for example American ginseng.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>The market
actually prefers a product that is ecologically produced, using the natural forest
ecosystems that we are blessed with in eastern </span></font><st1:place><font
size=2 color=red face="Bookman Old Style"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:red'>North America</span></font></st1:place><font
size=2 color=red face="Bookman Old Style"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:red'>.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>This type of product is essentially a “wild” product…….yet the growers, planters,
<span class=SpellE>husbanders</span>, whatever you elect to call them, of this
type of product are being slowly forced into calling it “wild-simulated.” <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Why?<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>Because from a government management perspective (which is admittedly well-intentioned),
the two products cannot be distinguished apart and how then can the “wild”
populations be identified and/or managed?<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'>
</span>Why should it matter if they have to call it “wild simulated” versus “wild?”<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>Well, it should not….in an ideal world.<span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>But in the modern marketplace there is
failure to compensate folks duly for their agricultural goods, and wild versus
wild simulated---by name alone---may mean the difference between getting $400
per pound versus $150, respectively.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=red face="Bookman Old Style"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:red'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=red face="Bookman Old Style"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:red'>So then,
what do we mean by suggesting that “cultivation is the future.” I suppose we mean
that one should introduce plants into orderly horticultural systems (within
whatever eco-<span class=SpellE>nomencultural</span> context we each
individually embrace)?<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>I certainly am
not hearing any support for, or acknowledgement of, all those folks out there
(and they are out there) who quietly go about their business of tending plants
in the woods (or whatever ecosystem)….plants that appear as “wild” as can be
when we trespass on their lands through imposed top-down inspections,
regulations, and the like.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=red face="Bookman Old Style"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:red'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=red face="Bookman Old Style"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:red'>I am raising
rhetorical questions here folks, and not trying to ruffle feathers or place
fault on any stakeholder.<span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>But it does
seem to me that one of the best methods for conserving AND culturing a native
medicinal forest plant (of high quality mind you<span class=GramE>)---</span>namely
low-input, low-disturbance <span class=SpellE>agroforestry</span> systems---is
being threatened by our naive conservation lexicon and rubric. <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=red face="Bookman Old Style"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:red'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=red face="Bookman Old Style"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:red'>No easy
answers here to be sure.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:red'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=red face="Bookman Old Style"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:red'>Kindest
regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:red'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:red'>Eric<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
MPWG-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org
[mailto:MPWG-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org] <b><span style='font-weight:
bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Jean Giblette<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, January 07, 2005
11:22 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> PCA's Medicinal Plant Working
Group List<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [MPWG] Cultivation of
Medicinal Plants</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I know many growers in the
U.S., Europe, Australia and New Zealand who consider themselves to be the
ORIGINATORS of this knowledge base of ecological cultivation. Yes, there
were the prophets -- Okada, Howard, Steiner, Voisin, Fukuoka -- but in the
industrial world the machine worldview has ruled for a
century. Organics was an entirely grass-roots activity for 50 years
in the U.S. until the Federal rule was formulated in the 1990s. The
agricultural education establishment was actively hostile to it. [Steve
Diver has been quite the exception to the norm, all along.] I myself was
rebuffed by my local Ag Extension agent in the early '90s when I began growing
Chinese medicinal herbs -- now he's very courteous and helpful. Fortunately I
was able to find enlightened academics, but many are encumbered by their
institutions. The ecological farmers have created their own
separate teaching organizations, associations and conferences.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Bio-dynamics, historically, was
developed only by growers, never the province of the academy or industrial
concerns unless owned by Anthroposophists. It was almost entirely
underground until the 1990s in the U.S., as its practitioners were met with
utter derision at the idea of following the course of the moon in their procedures,
or using fermented herbal preparations in homeopathic doses. As far as
I'm concerned, a bio-dynamically cultivated herb is as good or better than
a wild plant. I visited two biodynamic medicinal plant gardens this
past summer, in NY and Quebec, where the plants exhibited truly astonishing
vitality. It's so apparent I call it the "Findhorn effect."</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>For one moment, can we address class
prejudice against farmers? An anecdote will serve. This past
September at the conclusion of one of my workshops, an Oriental medicine
practitioner in attendance told me that the weekend had changed his life.
He's a young African-American man, practicing in Jersey, whose ancestors
were sharecroppers in North Carolina. He said, "I always thought
that farming was beneath me, something I would never want to be involved
in. Then I saw that man [referring to the bio-dynamic medicinal plant
grower who was lecturing], how incredibly skilled and thoughtful he is, and how
wide-ranging his knowledge. And my whole worldview shifted."
He later told me he had enrolled himself and his two young children in a
horticulture course.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>To be ruthlessly frank, the big
deficit of this listserve is that the growers are missing from the
discussion. I can afford the time to write this response only because I'm
holed up after a snowstorm in January.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Ecological cultivation of medicinal
plants is the way to go.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Jean Giblette, Director<br>
HIGH FALLS GARDENS<br>
Box 125 Philmont NY 12565 USA<br>
518-672-7365<br>
<a href="mailto:hfg@capital.net">hfg@capital.net</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:info@businesshorizons.com" title="info@businesshorizons.com">JPS
Kohli</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:MPWG@lists.plantconservation.org"
title="MPWG@lists.plantconservation.org">MPWG@lists.plantconservation.org</a> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Friday,
January 07, 2005 1:27 AM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> [MPWG]
Cultivation of Medicinal Plants<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Steve Diver has further strengthened my belief that
cultivation (bio-dynamic or organic or any other form it takes) will be the
next big thing to happen in the field of medicinal plants. It is my belief that
cultivation is the immediate next step forward which has to be understood
before embarking on newer (and maybe better) methods towards conservation of
medicinal plants. Good agricultural practices (encompassing all processes
starting from soil preparation to harvesting/storage) needs to be implemented
industry-wide and certification agencies will have an important role to play.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Sadly, the growers/cultivators of medicinal plants are
among the most inaccessible parts of the chain of supply in medicinal plants
trade and the knowledgebase (as improved from time to time) takes an eternity
to percolate down to them. Lets hope things change for the better sooner rather
than later.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Note for Steve Diver - Your website mentioned in
your email is an awesome source of information. My compliments for this
achievement.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>J P S Kohli (B. Pharm)<br>
Business Horizons<br>
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New Delhi - 110 048, INDIA</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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