Thank you, Lauren. Thus far, I have briefly scanned over some of the abstracts from a literature search of this author. This is very helpful research. - Gena<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Lauren Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:smith659@indiana.edu" target="_blank">smith659@indiana.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">In addition to the sources that Gena sent, you might all be interested in Rick Relyea's work on non-target effects of Roundup on amphibians. <a href="http://www.pitt.edu/~relyea/Site/Welcome.html" target="_blank">http://www.pitt.edu/~relyea/Site/Welcome.html</a> The Roundup tab has information about one particular study, but he has other interesting work in his publication list on how sublethal levels of herbicides can alter interactions amongst predators and prey or competitors. <div>
<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Gena Fleming <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:genafleming@gmail.com" target="_blank">genafleming@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Well, this is quite a conundrum, isn't it? I guess we'll never know for sure, but it's an interesting puzzle. The following may or may not be deemed relevant to the discussion.<br>
<br>This correspondence by Michael Surgan is a good (and brief) discussion of the problems posed by the presence of "inert" ingredients in pesticide formulations:<br>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1281320/#b1-ehp0113-a0657c" target="_blank">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1281320/#b1-ehp0113-a0657c</a></p>
<br>In his reference section, he cites but does not provide a link to the New York lawsuit filed against Monsanto, so I will provide it here:<br><a href="http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/fraud.pdf" target="_blank">http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/fraud.pdf</a><br>
<br>Note that a similar lawsuit against Monsanto's false claim of Roundup being nontoxic and biodegradable was also successfully pursued in France.<br><br>The article Surgan references by Richard et al. that explores the toxicity of some of the adjuvants in Roundup formulations is a worthwhile read; the abstract doesn't take too much time:<br>
<a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1257596/" target="_blank">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1257596/</a><br><br>Surgan's link to the EPA Reregistration Eligibility Document on Glyphosate doesn't work. Here's an EPA fact sheet for that document:<a href="http://www.epa.gov/oppsrrd1/REDs/factsheets/0178fact.pdf" target="_blank"> http://www.epa.gov/oppsrrd1/REDs/factsheets/0178fact.pdf</a>
<br>... with the relevant excerpt being (and bold emphasis is mine):<br><b><span style="background-color:rgb(153,0,0)"><span></span></span><br>
</b><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none">
</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><i>Due
to the presence of a <b>toxic inert ingredient</b>, some glyphosate end-use products
must be labeled, "Toxic to fish," if they may be applied directly to
aquatic environments.</i></p><i>
</i><p></p><span style="background-color:rgb(51,51,255)"><i><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span><br></span></span></i><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span>The fact that the EPA feels comfortable using terms such as "toxic inert ingredient" is enough to keep my head in a spin.<br>
<br>best regards,<br><br>Gena Fleming</span></span><i><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span></span></span></i></span><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Wayne Tyson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:landrest@cox.net" target="_blank">landrest@cox.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><u></u>
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<div><font face="Arial">A <i>possibility,</i> sure, but not a
<i>probability. </i>Certainly the "soils" were disturbed; they were cut
slopes, creating ideal conditions for colonization by weedy plants. Yes,
the "invasives" could have altered soil properties (one of the ways is
soil-building), and in fact, it could have been the dead invasives that harbored
the residues that killed the emerging native seedlings. </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial">Conjecture can be useful, but useless in the
absence of a stated theoretical foundation or actual evidence. What is needed is
good science that can confirm or reject the conjectures. </font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial">WT</font></div>
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