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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi All:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(I wonder if Fleming knew the guy who looked after
the Torrey Pines?) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks to Fleming for providing the link (makes up
for my sloth). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Fleming's "bad juju" is a helluvalot less
convoluted than my feeble attempt at elegant brevity. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Do I presume correctly that both Fleming and I
continue to await the bolt from the authorities that will clear up our
confusion. Presumably, those who use the "present" terminology have THE answer
and will straighten us out forthwith? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>WT</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=genafleming@gmail.com href="mailto:genafleming@gmail.com">Gena
Fleming</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=landrest@cox.net
href="mailto:landrest@cox.net">Wayne Tyson</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A
title=Dominic.Maze@portlandoregon.gov
href="mailto:Dominic.Maze@portlandoregon.gov">Maze, Dominic</A> ; <A
title=jrandall@email.unc.edu href="mailto:jrandall@email.unc.edu">Randall,
John L</A> ; <A title=wvanderploeg@ameritech.net
href="mailto:wvanderploeg@ameritech.net">Wayne Vanderploeg</A> ; <A
title=katie@westernwatersheds.org
href="mailto:katie@westernwatersheds.org">Katie Fite</A> ; <A
title=apwg@lists.plantconservation.org
href="mailto:apwg@lists.plantconservation.org">apwg@lists.plantconservation.org</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:06
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [APWG] Terminology still
unresolved? Re: Jewelweed</DIV>
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<DIV><BR><FONT size=4>Hi All:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=4>Re: "I
presume that everyone has actually read the recent Davis, et al
paper?"</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT
size=4></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=4>I don't
think a link has been posted..... just in case, this will take you to
it:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A
href="http://www.gsd.harvard.edu/news/pdf/061411_deltredici_nature.pdf">http://www.gsd.harvard.edu/news/pdf/061411_deltredici_nature.pdf</A> </SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>I'm really enjoying this discussion. There is a lot of
disinformation that can hide behind outdated terminology. New
terminology is a good idea. But even still, one needs to stay on top of
whatever terminology one is are using, and think about what is really
happening in any given context.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>I can already hear promoters of biotechnology grabbing the
"Don't judge species on their origins" mantra to defend genetically engineered
species. This would be unfortunate, because the preoccupation with
"non-native" exotics, I feel, is partially to blame for genetically egineered
species being, for the most part, ignored by conservationists. We
have all these databases cropping up that employ citizen scientists to report
location of "non-native" exotics. Meanwhile, genetically engineered
organisms are granted secret locations, and it is even claimed that insertion
of foreign DNA from a different genus doesn't really change the
species.....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>This is also related to microbiology being replaced by
molecular biology..... and biology being diverted by
biotechnology.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>I hope we can soon end this war agains nature and find a new
consciousness to guide our observation and interactions. As has already
been said, this is going to take good critical thinking skills because, of
course, any organism living in nature is transforming that environment,
"manipulating" it to a certain extent. But there needs to be a more
qualitative and nuanced understanding of what kind of transformation we should
be engaged in with our environment, one that is mutually beneficial.
That understanding will benefit from terminology, but it will also need to be
an ongoing exploratory process, subject to open dialogue, criticism and
review. </FONT><FONT size=4>Words, like organisms, can mean one thing in
one context, and quite another in a new context.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>As for the current definition of "invasive", I do not think
any term should lump ecologic impact with economic impact as a qualifying
criteria. That's just bad juju.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>It's late. Not sure how convoluted this sounds, but
that's my stream of consciousness for now.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Anyway, I'm enjoying reading the discussion ----
thanks</FONT><FONT size=4></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>best,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Gena</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 19 July 2011 18:14, Wayne Tyson <SPAN dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:landrest@cox.net">landrest@cox.net</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=4>Dominic Maze, friends, and
APWG:</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=4></FONT></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=4>Dominic, I mostly agree with your
observations, but here is what I was stimulated to write (it's more than
colloquial; it's a stream-of-consciousness first draft, far from acceptable
for publication).</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
size=4></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=4>I do not think that ecology is a
"soft" doctrine as opposed to a <EM><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">science, </SPAN></EM>as I consider the heart of
science to be the asking of questions about Nature or "reality." I do think
those who call themselves "ecologists" worry too much about "standing" and
not enough about just getting on with the work and damn the torpedoes, the
slings and arrows of outrageous petulance by the egocentric. While I might
agree with His Pre-eminence’s (Rutherford's) comment about botany as
taxonomy to some degree (to the extent that some "botanists" DO seem to
limit themselves to pursuing taxonomic glory more than understanding of
Nature), but have no use for sniffy remarks like his in all contexts (I
don't know in what context he made the remark, but it seems needlessly
rude). </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><U></U><FONT
size=4></FONT><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=4>My private position is "Screw the
posturers!" Ignore such stuff. If one is intimidated by physics, join the
club (Einstein, Feynman). But courage often consists of ignoring posturing
(and Lordy knows we are surrounded by such dick-heads.) Academia is drowning
in Greek letters, algorithms, and prissy, ill-founded jargon; what it needs,
especially ecology, is to drop the pretenses and the insecurities that give
rise to them, and get on with the work of understanding what makes Nature
tick. Botany is a helluva lot more than taxonomy. Arguing from authority is
a not-well-enough-known logical fallacy, and too much discussion is colored
with such divergent manipulation. </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT
size=4></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=4>I didn't even know what "ecology"
meant when I started college in 1956, but I had the good fortune to have Lee
Haines as a professor; Haines was a true man for all disciplines, and he
taught botany and ecology together, along with other disciplines as needed.
I still use his first lesson every day--he placed two Petri dishes before
us, one with some muck and a planarian, the other with agar and a
bacterial culture, some pipettes, saline solution, and some pennicilium
mold. He taught is how to key out plants, yes, but he also taught us life
zones, succession, and other useful knowledge. But most of all, he taught us
how to think (now known as "critical thinking"). We camped out a lot, and
sang around the campfire. Later professors had a high standard to live up
to, as did we students. </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><U></U><FONT
size=4></FONT><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=4>I did turn to the
Executive Order on Invasive Species, and I thought it to be more political
bunk than science. It specifically excluded humans and their livestock and
crops. Science requires honesty and that is simply dishonesty. There would
be no “invasive species” problem if it weren’t for those exclusions. That’s
an outrage. <U></U><U></U></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><U></U><FONT
size=4></FONT><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=4>I quite agree with
Maze that terms like “ruderal” and “healthy” need to be clarified or
eliminated, but someone has to come up with something better, preferably a
family of related terms that do not contradict each other. I’m not so
confident that “new terms will inevitably arise.” I fear that the confusion
will multiply as egocentricity continues to reign, covering its doubtful
tracks with obfuscation and pseudo-intellectual fog.
<U></U><U></U></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><U></U><FONT
size=4></FONT><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=4>I wasn’t referring
to <I>Impatiens capensis</I><SPAN>; I meant to call for clarity of
communication, however, far beyond “peers.” (I do, however, thank
Vanderploeg for stimulating my question.) A major problem with the
anti-science, anti-intellectual fever in this country can be laid at the
feet of the academic “peerage.” Recent analysis of the Declaration of
Independence has revealed that <U></U>Jefferson<U></U> erased “subjects” and
wrote over it “citizens..” Unless there’s a good reason to do so,
terminology should not be reduced to academic jargon—it drives away the
curious, the amateur, yes, even the dilettante. These should be embraced,
not shunned. Just what do truly superior intellects have to fear from
the rabble--that they will climb up the ivy? And they should know what
the hell we’re talking about in “colloquial” terms if possible, presuming
clarity. But at least "we" should know,
eh? </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT
size=4><SPAN></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=4><SPAN>I look
forward to the definition of terms that can be widely accepted as
the standard for both colloquial (maybe a glossary?) and scientifically
acceptable terms. (And oh, while you're about it, how about a new term for
"brush?") <U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><U></U><FONT
size=4></FONT><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT
size=4>WT</FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT
size=4></FONT></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=4>PS: I presume that
everyone has actually read the recent Davis, et al paper? </FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><U></U><FONT
size=4></FONT><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><U></U><FONT
size=4></FONT><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=4>“I have sworn
eternal vigilance over every form of tyranny over the mind of man.” –Thomas
Jefferson<U></U><U></U></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><U></U><FONT
size=4></FONT><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=4>“The only thing
that interferes with my learning is my education.” –Albert
Einstein<U></U><U></U></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><U></U><FONT
size=4></FONT><U></U></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=4>“The suspension of
judgment is the highest exercise in intellectual discipline.” –Raymond
Gilmore<U></U><U></U></FONT></SPAN></P></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=4>----- Original Message -----
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT
size=4><B>From:</B> </FONT><A title=Dominic.Maze@portlandoregon.gov
href="mailto:Dominic.Maze@portlandoregon.gov" target=_blank><FONT
size=4>Maze, Dominic</FONT></A><FONT size=4> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=4><B>To:</B> </FONT><A
title=jrandall@email.unc.edu href="mailto:jrandall@email.unc.edu"
target=_blank><FONT size=4>'Randall, John L'</FONT></A><FONT size=4> ;
</FONT><A title=landrest@cox.net href="mailto:landrest@cox.net"
target=_blank><FONT size=4>Wayne Tyson</FONT></A><FONT size=4> ; </FONT><A
title=wvanderploeg@ameritech.net href="mailto:wvanderploeg@ameritech.net"
target=_blank><FONT size=4>Wayne Vanderploeg</FONT></A><FONT size=4> ;
</FONT><A title=katie@westernwatersheds.org
href="mailto:katie@westernwatersheds.org" target=_blank><FONT size=4>Katie
Fite</FONT></A><FONT size=4> ; </FONT><A
title=apwg@lists.plantconservation.org
href="mailto:apwg@lists.plantconservation.org" target=_blank><FONT
size=4>apwg@lists.plantconservation.org</FONT></A><FONT size=4>
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=4><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 19,
2011 2:11 PM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><FONT size=4><B>Subject:</B> RE: [APWG]
Terminology still unresolved? Re: Jewelweed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=4>I
couldn’t agree more, Mr. Tyson, on the importance of using proper (and
well-defined) terminology in any sub-discipline of ecology. After all,
ecology itself has often been considered the “soft” doctrine of the
biological sciences, and any clarification and standardization of
terminology is welcome and necessary to furthering effective research,
communication, and “conservation” (and increasing the relative standing of
ecology as a discipline).. When considering ecology’s standing as a
science, I am often reminded of the pre-eminent physicist, Sir Ernest
Rutherford’s dismissive comment of turn of the (last)-century botany (and
I paraphrase), “Botany is fine; it is about as difficult a science as
stamp-collecting.” [ouch!]<U></U><U></U></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT
size=4> I too, turn to the definition of invasive
species posted below and often point out that a species which escapes at a
constricted scale and doesn’t persist in the environment (displays low
population fitness) is not (to me) “invasive” (and I am reluctant to use
term even though it is part of my job title!). However, at what temporal
and spatial scales do we arbitrarily choose to demarcate as a threshold
for “invasive” or not? Defining populations as “r” or “K” were once
valuable in the budding discipline of population biology and ecology; and
while still taught in Universities, these have similar limitations; just
as the once useful definitions “apex” or “healthy” (or even trying to fit
population dynamics to a Lotka-Voltera” model) do. These limitations
create problems such as your (common) distinction between “ruderal” and
“healthy” (does this mean that all “ruderal” systems are “unhealthy”?).
As a result, these terms and approaches fall from favor and the
supporting concepts evolve to better describe the wide range of dynamics
we observe and record.. New terms will inevitably
arise.<U></U><U></U></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=4>As
to <I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">Impatiens
capensis</SPAN></I>: I’m not sure if your last two sentences, “It
appears that some believe there is no distinction. I would appreciate any
correction, definitions, or suggestions that will bring discipline to
communication about these subjects.” refers to the present discussion
about this species. If it does, I would suggest reading the
excellent Zika papers below. If it doesn’t, and speaks to the larger
issue of communication among peers, then perhaps the lack of distinction
stems from colloquial discussions such as this one. Either way, your point
is a very important one that bears consideration and we would all be wise
to retain it.<U></U><U></U></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT
size=4>Cheers,<U></U><U></U></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
Randall, John L [mailto:<A href="mailto:jrandall@email.unc.edu"
target=_blank>jrandall@email.unc.edu</A>] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, July 19, 2011 12:22
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Wayne Tyson; Wayne
Vanderploeg; Maze, Dominic; Katie Fite; <A
href="mailto:apwg@lists.plantconservation.org"
target=_blank>apwg@lists.plantconservation.org</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: [APWG] Terminology still
unresolved? Re: Jewelweed</SPAN></FONT><U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><FONT size=4>I
always turn to the Executive Order on Invasive Species for my “invasive
species” definition, which is: “an alien species* whose introduction does
or is likely to cause economic or environmental harm or harm to human
health.” As for those plant species that occur/specialize in disturbed
areas – I generally call these either native or alien weeds.
<U></U><U></U></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><FONT
size=4>(*”Alien species" means, with respect to a particular ecosystem,
any species, including its seeds, eggs, spores, or other biological
material capable of propagating that species, that is not native to that
ecosystem.) <U></U><U></U></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri color=black><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><FONT
size=4>Johnny Randall<U></U><U></U></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 14pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><FONT
size=4> <A href="mailto:apwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org"
target=_blank>apwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:apwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org"
target=_blank>apwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org</A>] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Wayne Tyson<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:37
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Wayne Vanderploeg;
Maze, Dominic; Katie Fite; <A
href="mailto:apwg@lists.plantconservation.org"
target=_blank>apwg@lists.plantconservation.org</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [APWG] Terminology still
unresolved? Re:
Jewelweed<U></U><U></U></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hello
all,</SPAN></FONT><U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT
size=4><U></U><U></U></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Is there anyone who
acknowledges (or would it be simpler to say "does not acknowledge") that
there is at least a phenomenological difference between "alien"
species that are largely restricted to disturbed sites and those which
"invade" healthy ecosystems? </SPAN></FONT><U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I realize that some of the
terminology used here is debatable too, and such discussion are worth
having, but it would appear, if "invasion ecology" is to be taken
seriously as a sub-discipline of ecology, that clarity of terminology is
vital to clear communication. Time was, colonization referred to any
movement of an organism into a "new" location, plants (what about
animals?) that were restricted to disturbed areas were termed "ruderal,"
and "alien" organisms that colonized healthy/undisturbed ecosystems were
called "invasive." </SPAN></FONT><U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT
size=4><U></U><U></U></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It appears that some believe
there is no distinction. I would appreciate any correction, definitions,
or suggestions that will bring discipline to communication about these
subjects. </SPAN></FONT><U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">WT</SPAN></FONT><U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT size=4>----- Original
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<P class=MsoNormal style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4"><FONT size=4><B><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=wvanderploeg@ameritech.net
href="mailto:wvanderploeg@ameritech.net" target=_blank>Wayne
Vanderploeg</A> <U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=4><B><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">To:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <A
title=Dominic.Maze@portlandoregon.gov
href="mailto:Dominic.Maze@portlandoregon.gov" target=_blank>Maze,
Dominic</A> ; <A title=katie@westernwatersheds.org
href="mailto:katie@westernwatersheds.org" target=_blank>Katie Fite</A> ;
<A title=apwg@lists.plantconservation.org
href="mailto:apwg@lists.plantconservation.org"
target=_blank>apwg@lists.plantconservation.org</A>
<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=4><B><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Sent:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Tuesday,
July 19, 2011 10:24 AM<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT size=4><B><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subject:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Re: [APWG]
Jewelweed<U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><U></U><U></U></SPAN></FONT> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT size=4>Hello All, <BR><BR>I don't usually
make comment to this group....I generally browse this list to see what
new issues are popping up. As a
biologist/ecologist/naturalist/land manager for 31 years in the Chicago
area with the Forest Preserve District of Cook County, I have seen this
plant come and go. Deer do browse it heavily and tend to prefer it
over most other plants. It does well in disturbed areas where the
soil is rich, moist and semi shaded. I have always viewed it as
sensitive plant that is easily displaced by weeds and never thought of
it as a problem plant in the Chicago area. The fact that it is
spreading prolifically in other areas where it typically does not occur
could be a symptom of a bigger problem. I would expect it to
disappear when those problems are discovered and solved.
<BR><BR>Wayne Vanderploeg<U></U><U></U></FONT></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
"Maze, Dominic" <<A href="mailto:Dominic.Maze@portlandoregon.gov"
target=_blank>Dominic.Maze@portlandoregon.gov</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Katie Fite <<A
href="mailto:katie@westernwatersheds.org"
target=_blank>katie@westernwatersheds.org</A>>; "<A
href="mailto:apwg@lists.plantconservation.org"
target=_blank>apwg@lists.plantconservation.org</A>" <<A
href="mailto:apwg@lists.plantconservation.org"
target=_blank>apwg@lists.plantconservation.org</A>><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Tue, July 19, 2011 11:42:18
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [APWG]
Jewelweed</SPAN></FONT><U></U><U></U></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi Katie et
alia,</SPAN></FONT><U></U><U></U></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
<I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">Impatiens capensis</SPAN></I> is, in
my experience, a problematic species here west of the Cascade Range in
the Pacific NW. The densities of this sp. are pretty amazing with
the understory of riparian corridors often dominated by it. I’ve
been seeing more and more of it in the Willamette Valley and surrounding
ranges here in Oregon with seemingly little attention paid to
it.</SPAN></FONT><U></U><U></U></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">
Interestingly, some land managers still consider this species native
here on the West Coast, probably due to confusion with our native,
<I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">I. ecalcarata</SPAN></I> in some
older floras and field guides. Ed Alverson of TNC wrote a short
comment in reply to a posting on <I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">I.
capensis</SPAN></I> at the Botany Photo of the Day
website:</SPAN></FONT><U></U><U></U></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT
size=4><U></U><U></U></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN><FONT face="Arial Narrow" color=#333333
size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Narrow'">“Impatiens
capensis is an introduced and invasive species in the Pacific Northwest
, west of the Cascades. Peter Zika addressed this issue in a 2006 paper,
"The status of Impatiens capensis (Balsaminaceae) on
the</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT face="Arial Narrow" color=#333333><SPAN
style="COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial Narrow'"><BR><FONT
size=4><SPAN>Pacific Northwest coast", published in the Journal of the
Torrey Botanical Club, vol. 133 pp. 593-600. In fact, I. capensis is
spreading into the habitats of the uncommon native I. ecalcarata west of
the Cascades, and the two species are hybridizing. This has created a
situation where the native species is potentially being out-competed by
both the introduced species and by their hybrids. Zika has published
another paper on the hybrid, which he has named Impatiens x pacifica ,
see "Impatiens x pacifica (Balsaminaceae), a New Hybrid jewelweed from
the Pacific Northwest Coast of North America", Novon vol. 16, pp.
443-448, 2006.</SPAN>”</FONT></SPAN></FONT><U></U><U></U></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT
size=4><U></U><U></U></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Add this spp.
to <I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">I. glandulifera</SPAN></I> (a big
problem) and <I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">I. balfourii</SPAN></I>
(an escaping species which may be a problem in the future), and we’ve
got our hands full out here with the
touch-me-nots.</SPAN></FONT><U></U><U></U></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: gray; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Invasive
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: gray; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">City of
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color=gray size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: gray; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">1120 SW 5th
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: gray; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">Portland,
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color=gray size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: gray; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri">p:
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color=gray size=4><SPAN
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color=gray size=4><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=4><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
<A href="mailto:apwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org"
target=_blank>apwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org</A> [mailto:<A
href="mailto:apwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org"
target=_blank>apwg-bounces@lists.plantconservation.org</A>] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Katie Fite<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, July 18, 2011 5:46
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> <A
href="mailto:apwg@lists.plantconservation.org"
target=_blank>apwg@lists.plantconservation.org</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [APWG]
Jewelweed</SPAN></FONT><U></U><U></U></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><FONT
size=4><U></U><U></U></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Calibri><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri"><BR><FONT size=4>Has
anyone had any experience with jewelweed (Impatiens) native to the
eastern U. S. becoming weedy in valley marsh habitats in the
intermountain West? <BR><BR>I see that jewelweed <I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic">Impatiens capensis</SPAN></I> (orange
jewelweed) is listed as a King County (WA) “Weed of Concern”.
<BR><BR>This species is shown as having a yellow flowered form, which is
what we are seeing.<BR><BR></FONT><A
href="http://www.kingcounty.gov/environment/animalsAndPlants/noxious-weeds/laws/list.aspx"
target=_blank><FONT
size=4>http://www.kingcounty.gov/environment/animalsAndPlants/noxious-weeds/laws/list.aspx</FONT></A><BR><BR><FONT
size=4>Katie Fite<BR>Western Watersheds Project<BR><A
href="mailto:katie@westernwatersheds.org"
target=_blank>katie@westernwatersheds.org</A><BR><BR> </FONT></SPAN></FONT><FONT
size=4> <U></U><U></U></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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