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<font size=3>I'm with you, Karen!!<br><br>
Bill Stringer<br><br>
At 12:53 PM 9/24/2009, Karen Adair wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">A one-time application of such a
virulent herbicide as Tordon without<br>
follow-up is irresponsible. Given that the application was made 16
years<br>
ago, I suspect that Tordon's effects were not as commonly known at
that<br>
point. I'd also add that the practice of herbicide application as a<br>
management technique was not as common 16 years ago as it is today
and<br>
the necessity for follow-up was often equally misunderstood. <br><br>
All this study shows is that man is prone to making mistakes and
that<br>
those mistakes can have grave consequences. It doesn't show that<br>
avoiding general spraying is right, it shows that the misuse of an<br>
herbicide is wrong. The problems associated with "the use of
general<br>
spraying as a weed-control technique" are human-derived. This
study<br>
supports why land management activities need to be carried out by<br>
professionals who understand the need for a thorough, intelligent,
and<br>
committed approach. <br><br>
Science can never prove something to be right, only highlight when<br>
something has failed. "No amount of experimentation can ever prove
me<br>
right; a single experiment can prove me wrong." Albert
Einstein<br><br>
I will gladly repeat and repeat: "I hereby eternally swear that I
shall<br>
eschew irresponsible methodology and application in weed-control<br>
techniques."<br><br>
Karen<br>
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Wayne<br>
Tyson<br>
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:05 AM<br>
To: apwg@lists.plantconservation.org;<br>
native-plants@lists.plantconservation.org<br>
Subject: [APWG] Herbicide Application Techniques Prohibit Re: NEWS:<br>
Studyfinds one-time herbicide use decreased native plants,may have<br>
increased invasive plants<br><br>
AT LAST! But SIXTEEN YEARS to declare the obvious that can be<br>
demonstrated by one simple experiment?<br><br>
Actually, I'm not surprised. But let us all repeat and repeat: "I
hereby<br>
eternally swear that I shall eschew the use of general spraying as a<br>
weed-control technique."<br><br>
This is not to say that direct application of the minimal lethal dose
by<br>
wick, by brush, by injection, by highly directed, low-pressure<br>
pneumatically-driven application to target plants only should be<br>
abandoned.<br><br>
WT<br><br>
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From: "Olivia Kwong" <plant@plantconservation.org><br>
To: <apwg@lists.plantconservation.org>;<br>
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Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 6:39 AM<br>
Subject: [APWG] NEWS: Study finds one-time herbicide use decreased<br>
native plants, may have increased invasive plants<br><br>
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> Study finds one-time herbicide use decreased native plants, may have
<br>
> increased invasive plants September 22, 2009 -- Melynda Harrison,
MSU <br>
> News Service<br>
><br>
> Matt Rinella, faculty in Animal and Range Science at Montana State
<br>
> University and an ecologist at the Fort Keogh Agricultural
Experiment <br>
> Station in Miles City, recently published the results of a 16-year
<br>
> study in the journal Ecological Applications.<br>
><br>
> See the link above for the full press release text.<br>
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William C. Stringer<br>
President<br>
South Carolina Native Plant Society<br>
<a href="http://www.scnps.org/">www.scnps.org</a> <br><br>
PO Box 491<br>
Norris, SC 29667<br><br>
Clemson University<br>
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<i>“Go my Sons, burn your books. Buy yourself stout shoes.
Get away to the mountains, the valleys, the shores of the seas, the
deserts, and the deepest recesses of the earth. In this way and no
other will you find true knowledge of things and their properties.”<br>
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Peter Severinus, 16th. century Dane
educator
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