[APWG] Plants Alien species Information evaluation and errors Re: APWG Digest, Vol 69, Issue 7, devouring
Wayne Tyson
landrest at cox.net
Wed Jun 10 16:50:22 CDT 2009
Hi, Kim and all; I agree that there is a need to get public information out,
but it is even more important that the information not be misleading or
incorrect. This list, however, should not rely upon newspaper accounts
without verifying the validity of the original research. AFTER that is done,
responsible organizations like this one should then take appropriate action,
including public information. There may be people on this list who are
concerned citizens who could be mislead into action by "reports" that are
insufficiently fact-checked. It is up to the professionals on this list to
ensure that the information going out is fact-checked or questioned, to help
minimize actions based on error as much as possible. So I would encourage
healthy skepticism on the part of all who read these messages to resist the
temptation to uncritically believe everything/anything they read here or
anywhere else.
I want to make it clear that I am not suggesting that any particular message
is not factual; only that scientific research, and reports about it, are
subject to error and misinterpretation and should not form the basis for
action by well-intentioned groups and individuals.
I could not agree with you more, Kim, that actions like ordinances need to
be carefully written to minimize adverse results. This list could be a good
forum for reviewing such ordinances and policies of many types of entities.
Open discussion that is centered on ISSUES rather than opinions or
personalities can do a lot to maximize the effectiveness of invasive species
management. The alternative possibility, I would presume, would have to be
that there are no issues worthy of examination and that everything that
needs to be known is known.
WT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kim Yousey" <rjyousey at att.net>
To: <apwg at lists.plantconservation.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [APWG] APWG Digest, Vol 69, Issue 7, devouring
> Hi, WT and all, I agree that we need to check sources. However, it is
> useful
> to understand the public impression of invasives control. It would
> actually
> be very useful to target some key sources of public outreach with info on
> valid control techniques specific to their area, sort of an applied
> ecology
> approach. This can be a bit dangerous since people tend to overreact, but
> nonetheless, some towns are considering ordinances and in order for them
> to
> be passed, the public needs some way to gage which type of control methods
> will work or not work.
>
> Kim Yousey
>
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> 2. Re: NEWS: Brazilian peppers devour carbon dioxide, study
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> 3. PNW IPC workshop: Be Garden Wise:.... (Lou_Whiteaker at nps.gov)
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> From: Olivia Kwong <plant at plantconservation.org>
> Subject: [APWG] NEWS: Invasive red algae causes snarls for Lowcountry
> shirmpers
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> http://www.islandpacket.com/news/local/story/869679.html
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> Invasive red algae causes snarls for Lowcountry shrimpers
>>From staff and wire reports
> Published Monday, June 8, 2009
>
> Biologists are monitoring red algae that has popped up around the
> Lowcountry, including in Beaufort County, and will be checking its
> possible spread to other parts of the South Carolina coast.
>
> See the link above for the full article text.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 18:33:56 -0700
> From: "Wayne Tyson" <landrest at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [APWG] NEWS: Brazilian peppers devour carbon dioxide,
> study finds
> To: <apwg at lists.plantconservation.org>
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> PC:
>
> Newspaper accounts, especially those without links to their sources, are
> often misleading. Reporters accept any published research as valid. It
> ain't
>
> necessarily so.
>
> Providing FILES (not just links, as these require big-buck expenditures to
> download) of the original research in its entirety is essential to get at
> the validity of the research. Some people actually do rely on news
> articles,
>
> and can then spend a lot of time, effort, and money going off half-cocked
> on
>
> something invalid.
>
> WT
>
> PS: What green plant doesn't "devour" CO2?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Olivia Kwong" <plant at plantconservation.org>
> To: <apwg at lists.plantconservation.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 6:08 AM
> Subject: [APWG] NEWS: Brazilian peppers devour carbon dioxide, study finds
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>
>>
> http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/jun/07/brazilians-peppers-devour-carbon-dio
> xide-study-fin/
>>
>> Brazilian peppers devour carbon dioxide, study finds
>> by DOUG SWORD
>> Sarasota Herald-Tribune
>> Published: June 7, 2009
>>
>> SARASOTA - No one is suggesting that "Save the Brazilian Pepper"
>> societies
>> should start cropping up, but it turns out there is more to the noxious,
>> invasive plant than its good looks.
>>
>> See the link above for the full article text.
>>
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> Subject: [APWG] PNW IPC workshop: Be Garden Wise:....
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> Be Garden Wise: Linking Horticulture and Plant Invasions
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> DATE: Thursday, June 18th / 6:00 ? 9:00pm
> LOCATION: Douglas classroom, UW Botanic Gardens (Center for Urban
> Horticulture) at the University of Washington, Seattle, WA
>
> INSTRUCTORS: Marty Wingate, Dr. Sarah Reichard, Dana Coggon and Dr.
> Lizbeth Seebacher
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> FEE: $25
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> Some plants may look beautiful, but non-native invasive plants can have a
> devastating effect on your garden and the biodiversity of surrounding
> natural areas. Come learn about invasive plant identification, impacts,
> pathways, control and alternatives from the region?s horticultural
> experts.
> Learn what you can do to stop the invasion. Look forward to a panel
> discussion with the speakers and Master Gardeners at the tail end of the
> workshop. Two of our experts will also have their books available for
> signing.
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> To register: Register at: www.pnw-ipc.org under the Be Garden Wise:
> Linking
> Horticulture and Plant Invasions icon. You can mail a check to the
> address listed or pay upon arrival on the evening of the workshop. You
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> registration form. Please contact info@ pnw-ipc.org with any questions.
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